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MNPS 50N50W 02-28-2020 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by squawk 762 (Post 2985528)
No one likes you. We don’t need your help. Go back to bit@@ing about your union reps in your own airline’s thread. You are worse than the Swift management that you came here to trash.

Cant dispute the facts, and honest reasoning. So then he resorts to a personal attack. At least he was honest about the Swift management.
A reasonable person tries to work for from within, then at some point, will resign and go public. Can't tell all, tell the truth in public, and expect to remain employed in the White House, why would it be different at Swift. Guys know to keep their mouths shut, bide their time, then blow the exits first chance they get. Did we not loose 30 of those HAPPY WITH THE STATUS QUO PILOTS this month. Even with the fake out pay raise. Some of us still working here know the truth, others indulge in wilfull Ignorance. Read your safety reports that are sent out in your email. Consistently going in the wrong direction, then ask yourself. Why is this happening. Please don't let the facts offend you, and resort to personal attacks.

MNPS 50N50W 02-28-2020 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by Miamitmster (Post 2985229)
I wish the guys in these stories about all the terrible planes and being forced to fly illegally and in unsafe equipment would post about it. Instead of the same four or five guys that don’t work here spreading bs day after day.
i work here and no one has asked me to fly anything unsafe, no one has punished me for refusing a broken plane. I have had schedulers give illegal assignments but they were changed when it’s brought to there attention.
So why don’t you guys bashing swift with these story’s get the people you heard them from to post them

A reasonable person tries to work for change from within, then at some point, will resign and go public. Can't tell all, tell the truth in public, and expect to remain employed in the White House, why would it be different at Swift. Guys know to keep their mouths shut, bide their time, then blow the exits first chance they get. Did we not loose 30 of those HAPPY WITH THE STATUS QUO PILOTS this month. Even with the fake out pay raise. Some of us still working here know the truth, others indulge in wilfull Ignorance. Read your safety reports that are sent out in your email. Consistently going in the wrong direction, then ask yourself. Why is this happening. Please don't let the facts offend you.

MNPS 50N50W 02-28-2020 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by PilotnotPirate (Post 2984596)
Miami Based?

Nope... but that's where 80 to 90 percent of the problems are. Got to meet some of the great people there on several occasions TDY.
Experienced some of those problems. Now I do everything I can to avoid going to MIA. We fly the cream of the crop, and have great flight mechanics. Not MIA.

squawk 762 02-28-2020 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by MNPS 50N50W (Post 2985705)
Cant dispute the facts, and honest reasoning. So then he resorts to a personal attack. At least he was honest about the Swift management.
A reasonable person tries to work for from within, then at some point, will resign and go public. Can't tell all, tell the truth in public, and expect to remain employed in the White House, why would it be different at Swift. Guys know to keep their mouths shut, bide their time, then blow the exits first chance they get. Did we not loose 30 of those HAPPY WITH THE STATUS QUO PILOTS this month. Even with the fake out pay raise. Some of us still working here know the truth, others indulge in wilfull Ignorance. Read your safety reports that are sent out in your email. Consistently going in the wrong direction, then ask yourself. Why is this happening. Please don't let the facts offend you, and resort to personal attacks.

Such sensationalist BS. There are no facts to argue with, as you have presented none, only accusations and rumors.

I do not engage in debate with those who argue in bad faith. Your intention is not to have a conversation and determine the facts, but to defame and libel the company and your fellow pilots.

hoover 02-28-2020 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff90 (Post 2984655)
everyone is entitled to their opinion, a reason 30 pilots left in a month

30 in a month? How many do you have left? I think this speaks volumes

squawk 762 02-28-2020 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2985208)
Says the guy that came from Mesa.....to Swift.
Nice upward trajectory buddy.
Got yer apps in with Skylease and Eastern 3.0 yet?

Nice insults!
That was a pretty efficient post, managing to offend FOUR different pilot groups all at once.
I live in Phoenix, that is why I went to Mesa when returning to flying after quitting during the lost decade. When I moved to Swift, I started flying day trips out of IWA, I have a 4 mile drive to work, and I spend a max of 3-4 nights a month in a hotel. So yeah, it actually is an upward trajectory.

tomgoodman 02-28-2020 06:47 AM

Moderator Warning
 
Stop the insults or this thread will be closed. Refute a faulty argument with a better argument, but say nothing about another APC member.

TiredSoul 02-28-2020 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2985659)
Awesome, black with two cream ...thanks appreciate it.
We’ll let you know when it’s smooth enough for service.

I apologize for my spellcheck malfunction.
Must have been unapproved parts and poor maintenance.

ChopperHopper 02-28-2020 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by squawk 762 (Post 2984620)
Contrary to your non-stop sensational and defamatory posts, I don’t believe the operation nor the aircraft are unsafe. If I did, I would leave. I’m sure you would do the same. The fact that you haven’t left raises the suspicion that you are less concerned about safety than waging a campaign of retribution against management, even at the expense of the reputation, and possibly, the jobs of your fellow pilots.

So, what your saying is "if it doesn't happen to me, it's not really happening". Just curious...

squawk 762 02-28-2020 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by ChopperHopper (Post 2986015)
So, what your saying is "if it doesn't happen to me, it's not really happening". Just curious...

straw man
/ˌstrô ˈman/
noun
noun: straw man; plural noun: straw men; noun: strawman; plural noun: strawmen
  1. 1.
    an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.


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