Seattle to Tokyo via Citation X+
09-24-2018, 08:21 AM
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Just in terms of fun, I think the southern route sounds cool. Can you play blues on a Ukelele?
Originally Posted by RRonin
Thanks for the response!
I know that "your mileage may vary" but I'll tell you that any information, when averaged against intel of others helps to fill in the crayon drawing! LOL! These are very special shows where very special vintage guitars are going to be played so we have to be real careful here. Thus the requirement for private jets instead of first class airlines.
I'm still wondering if the southern route through HNL would be a better haul. I'm not sure that the G450 has enough range, but there are guys here who fly them who know the route. And in winter, I'd rather see bikinis than seals and crab fishermen anytime! (No offense to crab guys, but hey, we're talking about bikinis...) LOL!
I know that "your mileage may vary" but I'll tell you that any information, when averaged against intel of others helps to fill in the crayon drawing! LOL! These are very special shows where very special vintage guitars are going to be played so we have to be real careful here. Thus the requirement for private jets instead of first class airlines.
I'm still wondering if the southern route through HNL would be a better haul. I'm not sure that the G450 has enough range, but there are guys here who fly them who know the route. And in winter, I'd rather see bikinis than seals and crab fishermen anytime! (No offense to crab guys, but hey, we're talking about bikinis...) LOL!
09-24-2018, 08:34 AM
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Having spent most of the last 18 years flying the Pacific I'm surprised somebody hasn't mention the practicality of just going Business Class on one of the numerous SEA Tokyo flight that leave every day. The would cost would be the same I would think. I'm all for a bit of adventure but the North Pacific in an aircraft with limited range wouldn't be an option for me.
09-24-2018, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by filejw
Having spent most of the last 18 years flying the Pacific I'm surprised somebody hasn't mention the practicality of just going Business Class on one of the numerous SEA Tokyo flight that leave every day.
09-24-2018, 04:02 PM
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Go South, stay warm... if it pays...
Originally Posted by capnflyright
The conference center will drop down to the floor and you can put a standard size inflatable bed on it. The couch can be slept on and the rest of the seats are fully berthable so you can definitely sleep on the 450.
Right now we're trying to see if we can schedule shows in HNL during the pair of trips. It's quite possible and the revenue would pay for the flights and allow the bump up to the G450 a no-brainer.
I know it's a long flight from HNL to Tokyo and some of us may want sleep. The G450 certainly makes that easier.
The alternative is still through ANC and I'm relieved to hear that the ANC to Tokyo leg is capable of being flown non-stop, if I'm understanding this correctly. We'll get a little cold. No colder than playing Blues to millennials, I imagine! LOL!
09-24-2018, 04:05 PM
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Touch my guitars and you die! LOL!
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
He's got musical instruments he doesn't want to risk on a pax carrier.
As some vintage guitars get older and more valuable, insurance companies get a lot tougher to provide coverage. Some old guitars actually have bodyguard/attendants to insure that nothing happens to them. And if you've been playing long enough, some audience members want to see certain guitars that they grew up with. It's part of that "reconnection with the past" that makes classic rock and Blues so indelible on the memory.
Airline baggage handlers don't care. TSA cares even less. So, we fly private. It keeps us out of trouble... LOL!
09-24-2018, 04:08 PM
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Do pilots play ukelele?
Originally Posted by Elevation
Just in terms of fun, I think the southern route sounds cool. Can you play blues on a Ukelele?
You can, indeed. I did a duet with George Harrison once that just crushed the house!
If we can schedule a show in HNL coming and going... we may do it, just to pay for the plane... LOL!
Plus, I can bank a few bucks for more instructors so I can fly the M2 in my hanger. LOL!
09-24-2018, 04:17 PM
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G450s are seducing me...
Originally Posted by capnflyright
The times I posted for each leg were real time. The 450 will do those specific leg/times non-stop.
I like the idea of non-stop legs. While it makes the trip shorter on aircraft that one may never see the insides of again, it does comfort me to know that the G450 aircraft is capable of doing all the heavy lifting I need.
If we can schedule a show in HNL (or close by) we may do it. Production peeps are working on it now.
How does one qualify a "pick-up" crew to fly someone else's aircraft? I've got a few thousand hours logged myself in little tiny airplanes including a Lear a long time ago (albeit with a little down time lately) but we're talking about a small breed of people here who breathe a different color of air than I do. I'm being told that if I can schedule an acceptable G450 crew, the plane will be available. (It's owned by a friend/corp who will be using his other aircraft and his crew during our needed timespan.)
09-24-2018, 04:37 PM
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The owner should have some contract pilots on the Rolodex. If not, there are several crew leasing companies—Jett, Jet Professionals, ACASS—among others that can provide contract crews. But, the owner’s insurer needs to approve them in addition to checking references, credentials, etc. by the owner or operator. Usually, the owner wants his captain in command and the contractor act as F/O.
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09-25-2018, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RRonin
Please forgive me if I've posted this in the wrong place.
I'm a touring/studio musician with an aviation background (beginning in to 70's) that includes currently having a Citation M2 in my hangar. Before you ask, I'm paying my dues to learn to fly it now. I'm not a pro pilot, just recreational and "flights over dry land". LOL!
I have access to a Citation X+ (and crew) for a part of my next tour (2018-2019) and I'm considering flights to Tokyo from Seattle using this aircraft in lieu of something like a Gulfstream G450 (which I also have access to). We're hauling passengers and luggage. All of our gear (aside from a few guitars) will be on that side already.
Has anyone flown from Seattle to Anchorage and then on to Tokyo in this aircraft? Time frame is December 2018 and then again in March 2019. Insights? Other than stretching our legs in Alaska during refueling, does this actually pencil? I realize that we'll be running thin fuel by Japan.
But is this doable without scaring hell out of our wives? I'll sooth my fears in old Scotch.
I'm trying to determine if it's actually feasible and realistic. Considerations in aircraft type are due to my production company's financial contributions to the trips. If the X+ will work, I'd prefer it.
Thanks for the insights. I appreciate it.
I'm a touring/studio musician with an aviation background (beginning in to 70's) that includes currently having a Citation M2 in my hangar. Before you ask, I'm paying my dues to learn to fly it now. I'm not a pro pilot, just recreational and "flights over dry land". LOL!
I have access to a Citation X+ (and crew) for a part of my next tour (2018-2019) and I'm considering flights to Tokyo from Seattle using this aircraft in lieu of something like a Gulfstream G450 (which I also have access to). We're hauling passengers and luggage. All of our gear (aside from a few guitars) will be on that side already.
Has anyone flown from Seattle to Anchorage and then on to Tokyo in this aircraft? Time frame is December 2018 and then again in March 2019. Insights? Other than stretching our legs in Alaska during refueling, does this actually pencil? I realize that we'll be running thin fuel by Japan.
But is this doable without scaring hell out of our wives? I'll sooth my fears in old Scotch.
I'm trying to determine if it's actually feasible and realistic. Considerations in aircraft type are due to my production company's financial contributions to the trips. If the X+ will work, I'd prefer it.
Thanks for the insights. I appreciate it.
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09-25-2018, 12:46 PM
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Ronin,
I agree with Thyagosc's post. If your airplane does not have enough range, you should charter a bigger airplane that has the range, like a G4.
By the way, since your name is Ronin and you are going to Tokyo, you should visit Sengakuji Temple in Tokyo. The most famous ronin of all are the 47 ronin of Sengakuji Temple.
The Real 47 Ronin Story: A Mini-documentary of Samurai Loyalty and Revenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_kbydqEuE
All 47 ronin were forced to commit harakiri. They are buried at the temple in Tokyo, near Shinagawa Train Station.
Graves of 47 Samurai (Ako Gishi) at Sengakuji Temple, Tokyo Metropolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU69b9AMSvI
Map to the temple
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Se...!4d139.7362869
I agree with Thyagosc's post. If your airplane does not have enough range, you should charter a bigger airplane that has the range, like a G4.
By the way, since your name is Ronin and you are going to Tokyo, you should visit Sengakuji Temple in Tokyo. The most famous ronin of all are the 47 ronin of Sengakuji Temple.
The Real 47 Ronin Story: A Mini-documentary of Samurai Loyalty and Revenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_kbydqEuE
All 47 ronin were forced to commit harakiri. They are buried at the temple in Tokyo, near Shinagawa Train Station.
Graves of 47 Samurai (Ako Gishi) at Sengakuji Temple, Tokyo Metropolis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU69b9AMSvI
Map to the temple
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Se...!4d139.7362869
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