I didnt mean that at all. What I mean is that its alot less paper work and less complications if they cut you loose as "a non employee" than if you were fully on the payroll from day one. No unemployment claims, etc.....that is all.

My training pay was on my W-2. But that was 18 months ago. It is strange that your hire date according to HR is different that what is on your id.

That is strange. I started training about 10 months ago; must have changed between your class and mine.

The question (rephrased for technical accuracy) still remains:

If the pilots strike, or if Omni initiates a lockout but continues training, will the people in ground school face the choice of being scabs for attending class or, even though they can't technically be fired since, technically, they have not yet been hired, having their training terminated (the result of which is identical to that of being fired) for not attending? Not that scabbing is actually a choice.

Will these people be included in any back to work agreement? Will the 1224 go "to the mat" for them if it comes down to it?

I doubt training would continue if a strike occurred, because the instructors would likely be on the picket line, not in the class room.

I personally think the Teamsters would fight to maintain your status with the company.

Look at it this way, if your in training, or on the line, the end result on your pay check is the same if a strike happens, it disappears until an agreement is reached.

I would much rather training pay go on a W-2 instead of a 1099, self employment tax on a schedule C is steep!

Insctructors won't be around to teach class while on strike. 777 school is taught by boeing instructors for now. If the big O wants to give you a type, then by all means let them pay for what ever they want. Turn an engine on an Omni aircraft during a work action and then you will be considered a SCAB. I don't know if this is the union's official position, but I wouldn't have a problem with it. Like people have said, you are not an employee until you pass your PC or 2 months of training have been reached.

Hmmmmm.......its a tight spot for sure, however.....We do have a few (a couple) of contract instructors but not sure if they are on line yet So I cant speak as to what they will do, if an Omni instructor is teaching class and you are recieving a paycheck (training pay or whatever) I'd say you both will be on the wrong side of the line....as for you walk-ons to the 777 at boeing same deal.....it doesnt matter what I or crosser think......I would seek the advice of the union and let them decide who does what....I will be in class starting the 28th of June so I'm kind of in the same boat.....I pretty much know what I will do.

Omni is "at will" employment. The first year you are on probation and can be terminated for anything, after that first year is up you can be terminated for everything. :D