There, I broke your Koolaide, problem solved. We miss ya bud, and I miss bumming stuff from ya. Since you left I am actually having to buy stuff, it is killing my wallet.

 

Yea I don't know....it's a shame though, Omni Has and had alot of good people that deserve the best. They have been downgraded by the Feds due to the amount of experience leaving the cockpit. That won't be good for the DOD flying.

 

What equipment are they leaving from? Might put the 777 (s) in a bind given the small number of crews.

 

I think you mean HEAR...IOWA, Idiots Out Wondering Around...Still trying to be more like you everyday though.

 

Oh real nice! It's a good thing we're not flying together. I gonna need a hurt feelings report. U guys keep your head in the game over there. Take Care.

 

I'm not comfortable with this conversation.

 

I drank the Koolaid at another airline. At that airline I was leaving from, I had a 1 year LOA. So, what did I do, I drank another glass of the new company Koolaid. Then 911 happened and I was furloughed. From my experience, drink tap water. At lease you know what.s in it !!! Conclusion, don't ever believe you management tells you, their all lies....

 

My apologies for the thread drift here but the above post is so wildly innacurate it needed to be addressed.

What are you talking about when you claim that a "back door a deal to cut someone elses throat or career as they did with their SLI proposal"?

I believe you are talking about LOA 67 when you refer to a "back door" deal, but that had nothing to do with the SLI. LOA 67 was negotiated while FAPA was still the bargaining agent for the Frontier Pilot, so there was nothing "back door" about it. In fact, when I was in Indy negotiating LOA 67 I personally sat down with four members of the Local 357 Exco at the hotel and chatted with them regarding the LOA negotiations.

Did you see FAPA's FIRST SLI proposal? How about the amended proposal? Have you read NWA/DAL and USA/AWA? Category and Class was the standard used for both SLI's and that is the standard we used for our proposal. Narrow Body CA's integrate with Narrow Body CA's, NB FO's integrate with NB FO's, Large RJ CA's integrate with Large RJ CA's, Small RJ CA's integrate with small RJ CA's, and so on down the line.

Did you see YX's FIRST proposal? How about their amended proposal?

I have no idea what you are talking about with the following statement,
"Actions that were designed to carve out a special deal and instead set a new, lower bar for management to point at and tell everyone else and point to that as the "new industry standard"

Special deal? Lower the bar?

Our Airbus pay rates remain untouched, and still fall within the middle of the pack of current Airbus 320 operators. Lower than some but higher than others. How is that lowering the bar?

Do you know that RAH approached FAPA with 190 pay rates, and we told them "no thanks". How is that lowering the bar?

I still have a picture of the white board with the 190 pay rates. I can't wait to see the 190 rates that the Local 357 acheives during mediation. I really hope they are A LOT more than what the company offered FAPA. We could have easily accepted the 190 rates and cut the legs right out from the Local 357 pilot group. No FAPA pilot will ever see the 190 as it is not fenced off. FAPA walked away from the rates because it was the right thing to do.

So, how EXACTLY have we lowered the bar?

(Sorry again for thread drift, good luck to the gents at Omni)

 

I fail to see where any of this has anything to do with the Omni TA's. You and ATCsaidDoWhat would do us all a service by keeping your little tempest in its proper teapot on that other thread.

kthxbai

 

just saw the other thread....