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Old 05-12-2012, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 501D22G View Post
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you do any research before you applied?

You know the alternative to a job in this segment of the cargo industry is usually swinging gear at a regional.

Ask some of the folks at Pinnacle how awesome their over-guarantee checks have been lately. And what's upgrade time at Eagle nowadays?

No, you won't stay in a Netjets $189/night hotel on overnights, get UPS catering, or ride a Fedex limo to work. Hopefully this isn't news to you.

Forget the new rest rules. Freight pilots don't get tired. Do more with less. Fly 8 in 16. No, it's not a CDO, a stand-up, or any other ***** term you can come up with. It's just a day at work. If your day starts at 5 pm and ends at 9 am, you don't get a medal. You drink some beer and eat some eggs and go to sleep. Because that's a perfectly normal thing to do at 9 am. Then wait for the phone to ring so you can do it again.

So, you might have to push some freight, actually do a weight & balance longhand every once in a while, and file your own flight plans. Do you even know how to cancel on the ground after the tower closes?

Shirley you can't be serious.

I'm going to CLUE you in........MD-11 PIC Type Rated....Currently Flying International on the MD-11F For a Cargo Airline in MIA.....Not very Happy with that....But..CAN't hold my breath waithing for FED EX.....Fly 20 Days on and 10 HARD Days Off--Which you can be screwed out of some of them IF the company finds that on your LAST DAY you're in AMS.....The Position I Have is NOT COMMUTABLE.

I ONLY speak English WELL...If you knew WHO I worked for...you would know HOW HARD that is.....

I'm rarely home and when I am....I feel like a VISITOR....

So.....PLEASE don't tell me about your sacrifices...we ALL make them....But....I'm NOT CLEANING TOILETS....LOADING PALLETS...OR ANYTHING ELSE....OR WIPING ASS.....WITHOUT PROPER Compensation....Period!

I took a look at USA JET because it's DOMESTIC Flying and I felt it was commutable.....I thought I could be Home more often...I didn't care about the SIZE of the Aircraft....Just A Better QOL....

I don't care what the state of the economy is....I FLY AIRPLANES.....If I wanted to be a Cargo Handler....Lav Dumper..Etc...I would apply for those positions....

If That interests you..and you want to convince YOURSELF and rationalize in YOUR MIND that I've got to do it BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FREIGHT GUYS DO.....That's YOUR perogative.....Not Mine...

I'm not DESPERATE....

They told me you have to LOAD/UNLOAD THE AIRPLANE without Compensation.....I said NO THANK YOU...

I sacrifice now...FLYING FREIGHT...A FREIGHT DOG....and I DON'T load OR Unload the Aircraft...

I FLY IT.
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Golden Bear View Post
Wow.

You do realize those "retirement jobs" would never exist had the profession only been filled with people like you.

Never make a stand for anything. Just take the quickest and easiest route to what you want.

Disgraceful.
I Agree with you Golden Bear.....
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Old 05-12-2012, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by UNDGUY View Post
CrackPipeOvht: You may be surprised that instead of a fast upgrade you get a fast furlough or termination. Been there done that, furloughed after four months on the job and asked to come back AS A NEW HIRE less than 30 days later. Its a normal occurence at that place. One of the captains I flew with has been there 7 years with four furloughs under his belt. Oh and rumor around the crew room is that the profit margin on the passenger ops is too small for the new ownership combined with the new rest rules going into effect for passenger operators will equal the end of their passenger ops meaning shrinkage and furloughs.

Alphonso: I literally laughed out loud when I read that. You better stay on your MD-11 or go do passenger ops.
You are soooooooooooo right.....I'm still there on the MD-11F....and Learning to speak FLUENT Spanish..

:-)))))))
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:00 AM
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Big yellow airplanes. Non union side I assume.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:05 PM
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Big yellow airplanes. Non union side I assume.

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Old 05-18-2012, 08:50 AM
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For those who work at USA Jet. how much flying is done in a month, typically?
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Old 05-18-2012, 09:00 AM
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They don't break guarantee.
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Old 05-18-2012, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by alphonso1 View Post
MD-11 PIC Type Rated....
...Not very Happy with that....
The Position I Have is NOT COMMUTABLE.
I'm rarely home
..Just A Better QOL....
I don't care what the state of the economy is..
I'm not DESPERATE....
1) this is an internet forum, don't take comments personally. I just asked you a simple question if you had done your research, which clearly you have not. Here are some facts about the industry:

2) NO ONE and I mean no one, especially silver platter pilots, looks to change jobs to non-sched, ad-hoc freight airlines to improve QOL. You were looking to improve QOL.

3) In most instances, it is not practical/economical to commute to an ad hoc freight job, and usually just lowers QOL even more. You were looking to improve QOL.

4) In most instances, pilots leave scheduled ops for non-sked ops only when they are desperate. You said you were not.

5) If you are looking for the "I just show up and fly the airplane, everything is done for me and handed to me on a silver platter, can you fetch me my newspaper and coffee" job, ad hoc freight is not the place to look.

6) Your MD-11 PIC type rating is most impressive. You would probably not be happy with the downgrade to DC-9.

On the plus side, living in YIP, you might be home more often AND as a bonus you wouldn't have to live in north havana (MIA).

7) Loading/unloading is part of the job. You do get compensated; you fly the trip, load/unload the freight, and at the end of the week you get a paycheck. Bazinga. Compensation.

8) Doing your job and doing it correctly is also job security. In this economy, job security is high on the list in my book.

If one had a $150,000/yr job flying for a flight department, and your boss said "Hey look, Billy-Bob the line guy went home with the flu, can you re-stock the Popov in the Piaggio, the Chivas in the Citation, and the Grey Goose in the Gulfstream?" One might think, Hmmm, this isn't the best flying gig out there, nor the worst, but it's better than pumping gas at the Stop N' Rob, so....

I know I would do it quickly and with a smile. I know it's not my job to be the ground beverage coordinator (or IBC in flight), but if an extra 10 minutes of effort keeps my job secure and let's me go home to see my kids, and keeps them out of a crappy elementary school in one of the armpit cities in the United States, guess what Chuck I'm doing it. The same concept applies to loading freight.

Until the supply/demand curve for pilot jobs/pilots shifts (which by the way, will be never) so that there are hundreds of [insert great company here] jobs and only limited pilots available for hire, freight guys are gonna go the extra mile.
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Old 05-18-2012, 01:03 PM
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I don't fly for USAJET. I did however go to EMU which does it's flight training out of YIP and I live in belleville. Having said that I do remember numerous time when I use to instruct out of there seeing USAJet DC9s take off and rotate on the thousand foot blocks or farther on the other end. I took a dispatch class in college and our instructor was a dispatcher at USA, she mentioned a lot of JANKEY stuff went on there that wasn't exactly SAFE. She also said for us to stay away ha.


And... I can see why someone would get comfortable at a regional and never want to leave. I love having an average of 2-3 short legs a day with long overnights in great hotels
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:46 AM
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Anyone else apply for the DC-9 posting, and get the paperwork recently talking about filling DA-20 positions?
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