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Old 11-08-2014 | 02:01 PM
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Any information to substiate your claims, or is this just a rant?
My guess would be that it is just a rant. I applied, and I would likely go if the opportunity presented itself. I'm a 7 yr RJ FO without much to lose.
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Old 11-08-2014 | 04:24 PM
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Think "New PeoplExpress." How long did that fiasco last? So you do have something to lose.
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Old 11-08-2014 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Any information to substiate your claims, or is this just a rant?
Having known the chief pilot when he was the VP of OPS at ATI, I think I can confirm what kind of operation the New Eastern will be. And it's not good.
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Old 11-09-2014 | 06:07 PM
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No, it's NOT a rant! Have a real serious think about the new Eastern. A number of us have now spelled it out for you. You can chose to ignore it or realize it might be career ruining to go to work there. I assure you there will be some who find out the hard way about this operation and its management team. They do not have a good track record.
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Old 11-09-2014 | 06:31 PM
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Follow this advice--lots of pilots have come to grief at EA. The strike breakers in particular.

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Old 11-11-2014 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
Follow this advice--lots of pilots have come to grief at EA. The strike breakers in particular.

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Very politely said sir.
Some get together and start their own airline...
No shortage of ex-Eastern "pilots" in MIAMI.
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Old 11-11-2014 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Braniff DC8
No, it's NOT a rant! Have a real serious think about the new Eastern. A number of us have now spelled it out for you. You can chose to ignore it or realize it might be career ruining to go to work there. I assure you there will be some who find out the hard way about this operation and its management team. They do not have a good track record.
I know one of the management team, and he is a good guy. Not sure exactly where your facts come from.
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Old 11-12-2014 | 05:59 PM
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The new EAL was supposed to be flying by now but isn't. In order to have an airline you must have approval by the FAA at least. The process, although time consuming, should have been completed by now. This says a number of things,1) Financial issues, 2) Management issues, 3)The plan itself and the list goes on.

The new EAL has gone from 737, to Airbus to 737 and now MRJs. Although they have advertised for crews I do not believe they have hired anyone yet except management people many of who have, let's just say, interesting track records. This also includes a small office in the old building which the airport uses now.

So, I would say it is not going to get off the ground. If, however it does, then it will be similar to Falcon or World Atlantic. The new EAL will need vast resources and lots of money to attract and retain people in order for the plan to work. I do not believe this will happen. One airplane painted in the colors does not mean they are in business.

Trust me, watch this space.
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Old 11-13-2014 | 08:29 AM
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EXCLUSIVE: Q&A with Eastern Airlines CEO Ed Wegel | Airchive

Sums up what i have already said I think
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Old 11-13-2014 | 09:24 AM
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Economic authority granted by the DOT is one hurdle to get by. Although EW merely stated that they've answered the questions required by the DOT. Doesn't state whether the DOT has granted their approval.

It can take a very long time before the FAA team will put a certification team together.

There's nothing in the regs that a carrier can't start putting their manual systems together before the first meeting of the certification team and the EAL's 119 team.

A painted up aircraft, an airline does not make. A conformity check is required before the aircraft can be added to the certificate for proving runs.
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