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Old 11-30-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by c402fr8er View Post
You didn't get the emails on 10/5 and 11/4 with the displacement results?
Ha, sorry, that was a total typo. I was saying past precedent was he has, so I expect the same. Next time I wont walk to the gate while responding on my phone.
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:49 AM
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Ha, sorry, that was a total typo. I was saying past precedent was he has, so I expect the same. Next time I wont walk to the gate while responding on my phone.

Haha, sorry to jump on you!

So much misinformation out there. There's enough to gripe about here without having to fight incorrect information, too.
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Old 12-02-2017, 03:29 AM
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The domicile page was updated. D8 captain from 10/16 hire moved to the ERJ CA side.
So It doesn't look like any ERJ downgrades happened.
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Old 12-02-2017, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin View Post
The domicile page was updated. D8 captain from 10/16 hire moved to the ERJ CA side.
So It doesn't look like any ERJ downgrades happened.
No, BUT, it does appear to have a CA upgrade from the dash that is bypassing a lot of others already on the jet.

ALSO, the bottom CA on the jet also appears to be bypassing those that have been waiting for upgrade as well.
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Old 12-02-2017, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by No Lies View Post
No, BUT, it does appear to have a CA upgrade from the dash that is bypassing a lot of others already on the jet.

ALSO, the bottom CA on the jet also appears to be bypassing those that have been waiting for upgrade as well.
Actually the D8 didn’t bypass, she was displaced and had someone Jr in the seat.
All the others didn’t bid, have the time or senority to hold CA during the last vacancy. Vacancy and displacements aren’t the same thing.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin View Post
Actually the D8 didn’t bypass, she was displaced and had someone Jr in the seat.
All the others didn’t bid, have the time or senority to hold CA during the last vacancy. Vacancy and displacements aren’t the same thing.
Most of the jet pilots I talk to at C5 don’t understand a displacement. They see Dash FO’s junior to them with the time to upgrade get awarded jet CA on these displacements and are furious thinking the company is bypasssing them and not honoring their seniority. They fail to grasp this isn’t a vacancy. A displacement allows you to go wherever your seniority can hold. Once the Dash pilots are trained, a vacancy will eventually be posted and then they can get their upgrade. Sorry not sorry you bid over to the jet and couldn’t hold CA all spring and summer when there were vacancies. This industry is timing and luck and unfortunately the jet FO’s with the time since the fall got it at a bad time.
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr View Post
Most of the jet pilots I talk to at C5 don’t understand a displacement. They see Dash FO’s junior to them with the time to upgrade get awarded jet CA on these displacements and are furious thinking the company is bypasssing them and not honoring their seniority. They fail to grasp this isn’t a vacancy. A displacement allows you to go wherever your seniority can hold. Once the Dash pilots are trained, a vacancy will eventually be posted and then they can get their upgrade. Sorry not sorry you bid over to the jet and couldn’t hold CA all spring and summer when there were vacancies. This industry is timing and luck and unfortunately the jet FO’s with the time since the fall got it at a bad time.
The good news is once the last D8 transitions, and we run about 20 new hire FOs through training, the upgrade vacancy’s will be 1 for 1 for each new hire class. We just need a bunch of FOs to show up.
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Old 12-02-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr View Post
A displacement allows you to go wherever your seniority can hold.
I have never been able to hold a CA spot on the ERJ at my seniority. My bid for CA has been in since I arrived.

Somehow we now have someone junior to me that is now holding ERJ CA according to the domicile list. That is not how seniority works.

I am waiting to see if it is a typo or if the company and union are really allowing the transition guys to bypass seniority.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:10 PM
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I have never been able to hold a CA spot on the ERJ at my seniority. My bid for CA has been in since I arrived.

Somehow we now have someone junior to me that is now holding ERJ CA according to the domicile list. That is not how seniority works.

I am waiting to see if it is a typo or if the company and union are really allowing the transition guys to bypass seniority.
I wouldn’t treat that page as fully accurate, just like the seniority list is incorrect, the crew gallery is incorrect. That person is a Captain on the Dash so .info knows them as a CA. I suspect that’s where it’s pulling the data. I’ve spoken to him and he confirms he was told he is downgraded once he attends Jet training
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Can someone pass along the chief pilot contact info to me. Pm or on the thread doesnt matter. Thanks in advance

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