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Old 11-28-2017, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bgood
I agree, ALPA did relentlessly remind the pilots to bid sufficient bid. But what I want to understand is even though the person did not, the CBA says "according to seniority"...WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

Relax. Flipping out dont answer my question.
If you are talking about D.24.2., I assume the company assigns people who didn't bid sufficient spots in seniority order. Pilot A and B both didn't bid sufficient spots and Pilot A is senior. So the company decides what spots they go into and fills a spot first with Pilot A before assigning Pilot B a spot. I would assume that's the intention.

In real life it means nothing because our contract was written in places by people that randomly added clauses (I assume we stole this clause from some other contract).

It would matter if there was another section of our contract that referred to pilots who didn't bid sufficient spots are put into the highest paid open spot. But we don't have anything like that, so the company can slot a pilot anywhere if you don't bid sufficient slots
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
If you are talking about D.24.2., I assume the company assigns people who didn't bid sufficient spots in seniority order. Pilot A and B both didn't bid sufficient spots and Pilot A is senior. So the company decides what spots they go into and fills a spot first with Pilot A before assigning Pilot B a spot. I would assume that's the intention.

In real life it means nothing because our contract was written in places by people that randomly added clauses (I assume we stole this clause from some other contract).

It would matter if there was another section of our contract that referred to pilots who didn't bid sufficient spots are put into the highest paid open spot. But we don't have anything like that, so the company can slot a pilot anywhere if you don't bid sufficient slots
Ahh that would make more sense.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:01 AM
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Supposedly all the ERJ downgrades, if any have been called. Any word how deep it went?
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:10 AM
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I guess that's one way to get FOs if they downgrade CAs...

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Old 11-30-2017, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
I guess that's one way to get FOs if they downgrade CAs...

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Not if we quit first.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Not if we quit first.
I guess if they don't want CA pay, the CA bonus, and pick up at 300%, there isn't much the company can do to keep them. It's possible to jump ship and try to log PIC elsewhere but that's riskier than staying.

Plus a jet CA downgrade would be pretty senior as a FO.

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Old 11-30-2017, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
I guess if they don't want CA pay, the CA bonus, and pick up at 300%, there isn't much the company can do to keep them. It's possible to jump ship and try to log PIC elsewhere but that's riskier than staying.

Plus a jet CA downgrade would be pretty senior as a FO.

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Define “pretty senior”.

At this point I think anything involving C5 is risky.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by hslightnin
Supposedly all the ERJ downgrades, if any have been called. Any word how deep it went?
Past two displacements DF hasn’t emailed out theje results, I would hope and expect he does the same this time
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:00 PM
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2 dash captains is what I heard
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:50 PM
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Past two displacements DF hasn’t emailed out theje results, I would hope and expect he does the same this time


You didn't get the emails on 10/5 and 11/4 with the displacement results?
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