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waflyboy 04-10-2019 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2800559)
Dont you need to have done something on accident to qualify for an ASAP program? How would flying sick fit into this? I could only see an in-flight illness scenario applying in which case you are required to file a crew report.. So I'm confused how the ASAP program applies to this?

I'm thinking that an FA flying while sick is a potential safety issue. The ASAP program exists to identify safety issues.

Of course, only the FA can determine if they are fit to fly or not. But if the decision to not call in sick is influenced by fear of punishment, that sounds like a pervasive safety issue.

I didn't know FAs have their own ASAP program now. This should definitely be reported through that program if it happens.

Taco280AI 04-10-2019 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by waflyboy (Post 2800741)

I'm thinking that an [EMPLOYEE] flying while sick is a potential safety issue...

Of course, only the [EMPLOYEE] can determine if they are fit to fly or not...

I'm looking at it from a far more simple angle. If you're sick, how about you stay at home and away from me, because I don't want to get sick from your sick ass who didn't call out! If I get sick then I'm calling out, missing trips, missing flight time, and missing money. There are reserves for a reason and if the company is short on pilots or FAs, then they should have planned better. If there aren't crews to fly, tough lesson to learn, better do something about it management.

Need to buy more wipes, hand sanitizer, and Emergen-C... starting to run out after these last two trips with sick captains.

BobbyLeeSwagger 04-10-2019 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Taco280AI (Post 2800750)
I'm looking at it from a far more simple angle. If you're sick, how about you stay at home and away from me, because I don't want to get sick from your sick ass who didn't call out! If I get sick then I'm calling out, missing trips, missing flight time, and missing money. There are reserves for a reason and if the company is short on pilots or FAs, then they should have planned better. If there aren't crews to fly, tough lesson to learn, better do something about it management.

Need to buy more wipes, hand sanitizer, and Emergen-C... starting to run out after these last two trips with sick captains.


I got sick last year, pretty sure it was from a sick flight attendant who I should have kicked off the trip. I was so upset when I had to burn my sick time, get a doctor's note for the CP office, get in recovery to make it up etc.. It was partly my fault for letting her stay on, but that's not happening again. I'm glad your bringing this up because it's not fair to everyone else and I think this happens too much.

It's hard enough staying healthy out there when you're double fisting oreo minis for breakfast in Oklahoma with no sleep from the night before, we don't need sick crews. If someone shows up sick to my flight and they're like obviously sick, I'm gonna have to be that guy that kicks them off if they're not willing to make the call, which will be lame, but whatever, we all know better than to do that.

MuPpET 04-11-2019 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by Taco280AI (Post 2800750)
I'm looking at it from a far more simple angle. If you're sick, how about you stay at home and away from me, because I don't want to get sick from your sick ass who didn't call out! If I get sick then I'm calling out, missing trips, missing flight time, and missing money. There are reserves for a reason and if the company is short on pilots or FAs, then they should have planned better. If there aren't crews to fly, tough lesson to learn, better do something about it management.

Need to buy more wipes, hand sanitizer, and Emergen-C... starting to run out after these last two trips with sick captains.

sorry :( filler

TillerTemptress 04-11-2019 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2800559)
Dont you need to have done something on accident to qualify for an ASAP program? How would flying sick fit into this? I could only see an in-flight illness scenario applying in which case you are required to file a crew report.. So I'm confused how the ASAP program applies to this?

No. ASAP program is anything that's a safety hazard, potential or actually realized.
"Well, the rampers keep trying to walk in front of the engines, but until one actually gets sucked up we can't ASAP it so, oh well.."
Go read AC 120-66B.

BobbyLeeSwagger 04-11-2019 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by TillerTemptress (Post 2801126)
No. ASAP program is anything that's a safety hazard, potential or actually realized.
"Well, the rampers keep trying to walk in front of the engines, but until one actually gets sucked up we can't ASAP it so, oh well.."
Go read AC 120-66B.

I don't read ACs. But I would crew report that, not necessarily ASAP (although, sure, you could)

Edit: ok I'll meet you halfway. I looked at our ASAP MOU. It's primary purpose is to report a safety event and we know intentional non compliance is excluded from the program..

So in context to what I brought up earlier.... I don't think you can asap a sick flight attendant flying on your watch. I don't see how you would asap a flight attendant who is afraid of getting fired for calling sick either.

Would you asap the above?

Fpmx772 04-11-2019 12:24 PM

Compass Updates 2: Revenge of the Sit
 

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 2801153)
I don't read ACs. But I would crew report that, not necessarily ASAP



I think i would be like tha facckkkk, then I would prob laugh and then be like, what an idiot and then dig into the snack basket


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BobbyLeeSwagger 04-11-2019 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Fpmx772 (Post 2801157)
I think i would be like tha facckkkk, then I would prob laugh and then be like, what an idiot and then dig into the snack basket


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That's check airmen material right therrr folks lol

popcopy 04-11-2019 01:51 PM

Does this mean this is the 2000th post?

Neat! I like your Snackbasket options too.

MuPpET 04-11-2019 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 2801201)
Does this mean this is the 2000th post?

Neat! I like your Snackbasket options too.

2001st post, 2000th reply.


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