morerightrudder

Just wanted to spin this off from the main topic.

Based on what you know today, would you take the F9 flow when your turn comes up?

Cujo665

Not Compass or F9 but it seems it would be Better off keeping left seat pay, logging TPIC and continue applying to real airlines.

No hotel?
$45k first year?

BobbyLeeSwagger

I'm most likely gonna by pass first.. If we lose flying, I'll flow. If they open a base west of LAS, I'll flow. Otherwise I'll take my chances getting more tpic, safety committee, and try to get an LCA slot for a legacy. If can't move up in the bypass period, then I guess I'll flow and keep trying.

Shangri La

I'll preface this post by saying everyone's situation is unique and they should do what's best for them and their family. That being said I'll take it as soon as my number comes up. Frontier is an infinitely better place to work than compass. You have better QOL, job security and make 6 figures by year two. We have a tendency to be quite sheltered here at cpz with our most senior pilots only being on the list for 10 years. Most other airlines have seniority lists full of pilots who cant get the dream call for one reason or another. We're no different than any other pilot group and many of us may never get the call despite having a clean record and all the qualifications. So I'd go with the bird in the hand.. nothing says you cant keep our dream airline app current while you work for a real airline and have a good QOL. .

speedbrakearmed

Couldn't agree more with this. At the end of the day, no matter how you slice it, Compass is a regional with the real possibility of only having Delta flying by the end of this year. Frontier ain't going anywhere anytime soon. Sure first year right seat you'll probably take a hit but you'll recoup that by year 2-3 and far surpass it thereafter. Better routes, better plane, and a new type, sounds like a no brainer.

Taco280AI

If still an FO, yes. If I upgrade and get the offer, most likely no.

BobbyLeeSwagger

For those who are flowing for sure, are you going to apply now and try to sneak in early?

Shangri La

My apps been in since they signed the new contract. Contrary to popular belief in these forums getting on with Spirit and Frontier is not as easy as just hitting the submit button on their hiring page.. (not insinuating you believe that. Just a response to your question.) Also for reference I'm a middle of the pack CA.

Poser765

this is no joke. Maybe a year and a half ago, but now at spirit it’s become quite competitive. I frequently get texts from old cpz buddies asking for help because they can’t get noticed.

FlytheSky

This. Especially if you live in a Compass base, life isn't too bad. I always told myself that as long as I drive to work, there's nothing wrong with shooting for the legacies and not "lower my sights" until things REALLY went downhill at Compass. Luckily that time for me never came during my time there. If the Delta flying goes away (which I'm unsure of), then absolutely I'd take the flow, but I'd also start applying a LOT of different places.

Every recruiter I've talked to at a legacy airline has said that they prefer guys who have Part 121 PIC time (even at a regional) over LCC/ULCC FO time, even if it's another type rating (and even in something that the legacy airline flies). Their reasoning is they want to see someone make those PIC decisions (since they're hiring someone imagining them being a captain, not just a FO) and even if they already have the type, they'll still have to go through training on that plane. In light of that information, that's why I chose to stick it out at Compass. Full disclosure, only 1 of my 5 "dream" companies called me (and 1 of them even told me I wasn't competitive enough to even tour their headquarters), so it's not always true that "once one of them calls, they all call." So in light of that, I can see why some guys would take the flow if presented.