Compass might bid for ual contract
06-18-2019, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by yrbroom
OO does make the most sense based on that deal with XJT, but doesn’t OO usually own their own jets? Wouldn’t that not fit this pattern then?
06-18-2019, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by AirBat
It was real, but died for various reasons. Lots of people in building C saw various paperwork for it. Ultimately it didn’t make enough sense for Hawaiian or Compass.
06-18-2019, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
It’s because HAL wanted Compass pilots to go to fly ATRs for Ohana before HAL...and CPZ wouldn’t sign off on that.
06-18-2019, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by C37AFE
Still believe it will go to Skywest. They are giving up 700 to gojet so it makes sense they would get them. Plus read up on deal for when they sold Expressjet. Said they were next in line for new 70+ seaters as part of deal
06-18-2019, 09:16 PM
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Compass will bid.
But we won’t get them.
Why would UA give them to anyone but their brand new wholly owned regional, who they just bought a E175 training department for. Expressjet has them in the bag.
Even if not them, Skywest.
If not Skywest, even if we bag the contract, Mesa will under-bid us 9 hours before we ink the contact, just like they did in 2016.
But we won’t get them.
Why would UA give them to anyone but their brand new wholly owned regional, who they just bought a E175 training department for. Expressjet has them in the bag.
Even if not them, Skywest.
If not Skywest, even if we bag the contract, Mesa will under-bid us 9 hours before we ink the contact, just like they did in 2016.
06-18-2019, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Compass will bid.
But we won’t get them.
Why would UA give them to anyone but their brand new wholly owned regional, who they just bought a E175 training department for. Expressjet has them in the bag.
Even if not them, Skywest.
If not Skywest, even if we bag the contract, Mesa will under-bid us 9 hours before we ink the contact, just like they did in 2016.
But we won’t get them.
Why would UA give them to anyone but their brand new wholly owned regional, who they just bought a E175 training department for. Expressjet has them in the bag.
Even if not them, Skywest.
If not Skywest, even if we bag the contract, Mesa will under-bid us 9 hours before we ink the contact, just like they did in 2016.
Last edited by Excargodog; 09-11-2019 at 07:41 PM.
06-18-2019, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverFlexTO
It’s because HAL wanted Compass pilots to go to fly ATRs for Ohana before HAL...and CPZ wouldn’t sign off on that.
06-19-2019, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Machgyver
Ohana is not even own by Hawaiian. Ohana is Hawaiian's regional operated by Empire airlines exact same thing CPZ does for Delta and AA. Makes no sense to go fly a turboprop when hiring dep at HAL wants you to have mainland jet time.
1 Ohana planes owned by HAL
2 fills any staffing void
3 getting experienced pilots
4 reduced labor cost
companies have agreements with their subsidiaries that are not wholly owned...see United and the pilot career path program.
06-19-2019, 05:58 AM
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Yeah, they were trying to handling their staffing issues at Ohana and it just didn’t make sense.
Slowhawk: which carrier do you think is cheaper, Expressjet or Compass? Sure they already have a 175 program.. but each one is still a lot more people to get typed and they have a very high average longevity on the seniority list and a lot of lifers that aren’t taking the CPP.
Slowhawk: which carrier do you think is cheaper, Expressjet or Compass? Sure they already have a 175 program.. but each one is still a lot more people to get typed and they have a very high average longevity on the seniority list and a lot of lifers that aren’t taking the CPP.
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