Questions for Compass pilots
#11
I am currently flying as captain on the CRJ-200 and have been for a couple years. I have also been getting tired of the situation I am in and I am beginning to realize it is taking a toll.
So I interviewed at Compass a few weeks ago with the goal of being home more and having some flying a bit closer to where I like to be. They offered me a spot in their hiring pool, with a possible class date this summer. I am grateful to them for the opportunity to maybe join them.
I easily have my 1000 PIC on the jet and so going back to the right seat won't affect my marketability later, should I choose one day to move on to another carrier. But for now Compass seems to offer an improvement in the all important 'quality of life' factor.
I'd like to hear from some Compass pilots about some of the positive and some of the negative issues at the carrier.
Obviously I'd be on the right seat and on RSV initially. What are some of the RSV issues? How are the schedules? Are they commutable? (I live in GRR)
What are the contractual issues?
I know the pitfalls of the lower pay, etc. Only I can figure that one out. But I'd like to hear from those of you who went from a regional to another more or less regional carrier.
Any information is welcome. Looking for both good and not-so-good.
BTW, I don't want to hear only from the malcontents!!!
You know who you are!
So I interviewed at Compass a few weeks ago with the goal of being home more and having some flying a bit closer to where I like to be. They offered me a spot in their hiring pool, with a possible class date this summer. I am grateful to them for the opportunity to maybe join them.
I easily have my 1000 PIC on the jet and so going back to the right seat won't affect my marketability later, should I choose one day to move on to another carrier. But for now Compass seems to offer an improvement in the all important 'quality of life' factor.
I'd like to hear from some Compass pilots about some of the positive and some of the negative issues at the carrier.
Obviously I'd be on the right seat and on RSV initially. What are some of the RSV issues? How are the schedules? Are they commutable? (I live in GRR)
What are the contractual issues?
I know the pitfalls of the lower pay, etc. Only I can figure that one out. But I'd like to hear from those of you who went from a regional to another more or less regional carrier.
Any information is welcome. Looking for both good and not-so-good.
BTW, I don't want to hear only from the malcontents!!!
You know who you are!Commuting from GRR is not that bad. You can drive to DTW in less than 3 hours so that would be huge.
Not to many reserve FO currently in DTW most people on reserve have trips. Plan on having 11 days off a month. Really easy to hold DTW.
Best of luck. If you don't mind the pay hit and 11 days off then go for it.
Just when companies start to hire make sure you can explain why you did what you did. It might look like you were asked to leave
#12
Yes. The maximum Delta can take from Compass is 20 per month and 25% of the seniority list (about 80) in a rolling 12 month period. Assuming full scale hiring at Delta it would be about four years before you would be eligible if you were hired right now. If past practice reflects future action, Delta will not hire from Compass outside of the flow process. Of course this scenario makes a lot of assumptions, most of them rosy.
#13
So whats the story with this place? A lot of what I read on here from people that work here indicate that it is extremely understaffed. If staffing was at a normal level, would it be a bad place to work at, especially for someone who would have to commute? Are they still interviewing, and how deep is the pool? Thanks!
#14
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If staffing were at normal levels, they'd find some other place to take their pound of flesh. The story on this place, the one that doesn't get told very often, is that our seat costs are nearly 30% lower than DCI's other 76 seat operators. That partially comes from having most employees on first or second year pay, but it also comes from a substandard pilot contract with not so great rates, it comes from paying FAs $14/hr and firing them the second time they call in sick, it comes from seriously understaffing not only pilots but also FAs, dispatch, & crew scheduling, it comes from having an outsourced, miserably run training department, it comes from all sorts of nickle-and-diming they do on stupid stuff like paper checklists that are always shredding, NOS charts rather than Jepps for the EFBs, not giving crewmembers paper copies of the FOM & AOM & having them do revisions by handing them a CD-ROM with the new copies of the manuals - "here, learn this!".
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
#15
If staffing were at normal levels, they'd find some other place to take their pound of flesh. The story on this place, the one that doesn't get told very often, is that our seat costs are nearly 30% lower than DCI's other 76 seat operators. That partially comes from having most employees on first or second year pay, but it also comes from a substandard pilot contract with not so great rates, it comes from paying FAs $14/hr and firing them the second time they call in sick, it comes from seriously understaffing not only pilots but also FAs, dispatch, & crew scheduling, it comes from having an outsourced, miserably run training department, it comes from all sorts of nickle-and-diming they do on stupid stuff like paper checklists that are always shredding, NOS charts rather than Jepps for the EFBs, not giving crewmembers paper copies of the FOM & AOM & having them do revisions by handing them a CD-ROM with the new copies of the manuals - "here, learn this!".
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
We're not going to be around by this time next year...
#16
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
#17
If staffing were at normal levels, they'd find some other place to take their pound of flesh. The story on this place, the one that doesn't get told very often, is that our seat costs are nearly 30% lower than DCI's other 76 seat operators. That partially comes from having most employees on first or second year pay, but it also comes from a substandard pilot contract with not so great rates, it comes from paying FAs $14/hr and firing them the second time they call in sick, it comes from seriously understaffing not only pilots but also FAs, dispatch, & crew scheduling, it comes from having an outsourced, miserably run training department, it comes from all sorts of nickle-and-diming they do on stupid stuff like paper checklists that are always shredding, NOS charts rather than Jepps for the EFBs, not giving crewmembers paper copies of the FOM & AOM & having them do revisions by handing them a CD-ROM with the new copies of the manuals - "here, learn this!".
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
Heard a really sad story tonight. We had a flight attendant who had a difficult pregnancy and had to call in sick several times. She ended up losing the baby and was scheduled to fly the next day. She was still bleeding and didn't feel mentally fit to fly so she called in sick. They fired her.
Personally, I haven't had a bad time at Compass. But just hearing stories like the one above on a regular basis makes me sick to my stomach and ashamed to admit I work here. Now why would one want to leave a stable job for this!?
I have to say every time I've been on Compass flights flight crews including FAs have been super nice to me which I appreciate very much.
I did not know that CZ runs 30% cheaper than other DCI carriers, but based on your facts, I believe you. Looks like CZ needs to hire at least 30 to 40 more pilots to staff it adequately. How many Compass pilots are eligible for flowthru in 2009 if you don't mind me asking.
#18
Being pregnant and working at Compass is probably what caused all this to happen. Nothing i hear about things that happen on a day to day basis at Compass surprises me anymore.
As for staffing, they hired 40 pilots short of what they advertised through 2007 and 2008. We are roughly around 330 pilots now with a couple people quitting or going back to their old jobs.
There will be 80-85 people that could flow in 2009 i think
As for staffing, they hired 40 pilots short of what they advertised through 2007 and 2008. We are roughly around 330 pilots now with a couple people quitting or going back to their old jobs.
There will be 80-85 people that could flow in 2009 i think
#19
Being pregnant and working at Compass is probably what caused all this to happen. Nothing i hear about things that happen on a day to day basis at Compass surprises me anymore.
As for staffing, they hired 40 pilots short of what they advertised through 2007 and 2008. We are roughly around 330 pilots now with a couple people quitting or going back to their old jobs.
There will be 80-85 people that could flow in 2009 i think
As for staffing, they hired 40 pilots short of what they advertised through 2007 and 2008. We are roughly around 330 pilots now with a couple people quitting or going back to their old jobs.
There will be 80-85 people that could flow in 2009 i think
#20
This is true, but you can't compare how the FA's are treated with the pilots. Although the contract has issues, at least we have one. Maybe the FA story should be told to those that are anti-AFA. Other than inefficient trips and low days off, I haven't had any problems here that I haven't seen at the other places I've worked.
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