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#151
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 69
Interviewed and offered the job, no internal recs. Was told a class of four Dec 3 and class of 6 Dec 17th, more after Jan 1.
FWIW:
6000 tt, BE1900, CRJ, and A320 experience.
After walking the furlough line for 7-8 months, many of the overseas jobs (Qatar, Emirates, ANA, other contracts) will not even look at you as they want very recent experience. The need to get flying is pretty crucial. Looking forward to it.
Anyone want to provide insight as to initial stuff (yes I know about the housing during training). How much for uniforms (do you have to buy a leather jacket?), how does the home based CBT training work (at your own pace?), what kind of pay while in MSP for the sim, junior bases, how long for reserve, premium pay over certain hours, travel benefits, etc? Thanks guys.
FWIW:
6000 tt, BE1900, CRJ, and A320 experience.
After walking the furlough line for 7-8 months, many of the overseas jobs (Qatar, Emirates, ANA, other contracts) will not even look at you as they want very recent experience. The need to get flying is pretty crucial. Looking forward to it.
Anyone want to provide insight as to initial stuff (yes I know about the housing during training). How much for uniforms (do you have to buy a leather jacket?), how does the home based CBT training work (at your own pace?), what kind of pay while in MSP for the sim, junior bases, how long for reserve, premium pay over certain hours, travel benefits, etc? Thanks guys.
#152
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 42
Congrats on the offer. I can give some insight but it has been over 2 years since I was in new hire.
I had a new guy on my jumpseat and he said that 4 people shared a 2 bedroom corporate furnished apartment and it came to 450 per for the entire time in training.
Uniforms ...I dont know what they are going to make you buy we are switching to delta look alike with only a single breast. The company pays for half of it and the other half is payroll deducted at 15 bucks a paycheck. If you buy the blue the company will pay for the entire new black one. Sorry no leather
2 weeks for CBT it can be done in 2 days but if you take your time and go through it it will take 2 weeks. They have asked people to do it in 3 days and people have done it to get in an earlier class.
During sim you get guarantee 75 hours per month. You can hold almost any base specially with 60 new hire next year.
Decent travel benefits 50 a year to enroll. No premium for extra hours.
Reserve might not be long for you.
Good group of guys to fly with.
I had a new guy on my jumpseat and he said that 4 people shared a 2 bedroom corporate furnished apartment and it came to 450 per for the entire time in training.
Uniforms ...I dont know what they are going to make you buy we are switching to delta look alike with only a single breast. The company pays for half of it and the other half is payroll deducted at 15 bucks a paycheck. If you buy the blue the company will pay for the entire new black one. Sorry no leather
2 weeks for CBT it can be done in 2 days but if you take your time and go through it it will take 2 weeks. They have asked people to do it in 3 days and people have done it to get in an earlier class.
During sim you get guarantee 75 hours per month. You can hold almost any base specially with 60 new hire next year.
Decent travel benefits 50 a year to enroll. No premium for extra hours.
Reserve might not be long for you.
Good group of guys to fly with.
#154
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: FO4LIFE
Posts: 1,531
But they still got thousands and thaousands of applications from people with thousands and thousdands of hours. Why should they pay more? Why should they pay for a hotel while in training? They got plenty of folks lined up...
#155
So with that being said, what do you propose we do? I have been a professional pilot for the better part of 15 years and unwilling to take on loads more debt for education and re-training. My job skills are hard to transfer, or convince an HR person they can transfer, in this very tight job market. I have been furloughed since April and have been looking for work ever since. As mentioned before, it has been long enough since I have flown that the overseas jobs I have applied for are now not willing to look at me due to currency issues. Got shot down at Qatar last week due to that issue. So I can sit and drain my unemployment compensation, take on more debt to get retrained over the next few years, or take a low paying flying job, get current, and hope the market turns around soon and there begins to be some movement.
#156
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Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: FO4LIFE
Posts: 1,531
I've been out of a job since January, you can do the math of how many months of unemployment that comes out to. I'm not telling anyone not to go to Compass. I was just stating the facts in my previous post. People seems so surprised when they hear 15 hours of pay for 30 days, No housing during training, etc. I doesn't surprise me at all, because companies can do whatever the heck they want. They got plenty of people lined up. Supply & Demand. I wouldn't be surprised to see other airlines follow the same standards once things turn around and they start hiring. No more ticket to interview, No more Hotel provided during training, Only Half of guarantee pay until you pass IOE, etc. Just another easy way for them to cut costs. It sucks, but employers got us by the balls right now.
I don't get why Compass is hiring guys with 6000+ Hours, several type ratings, etc. Like you mentioned, most of these guys go there, get some currency and then bail as soon as things start moving. Not everyone wants to go to DL. But again, they can do whatever they want.
Also, as far as the whole "preferential interviews/hiring" for furloughed DCI/ALPA carriers, I heard it is BS. I saw how well it (didn't) work last year between OH/XJ.
I don't get why Compass is hiring guys with 6000+ Hours, several type ratings, etc. Like you mentioned, most of these guys go there, get some currency and then bail as soon as things start moving. Not everyone wants to go to DL. But again, they can do whatever they want.
Also, as far as the whole "preferential interviews/hiring" for furloughed DCI/ALPA carriers, I heard it is BS. I saw how well it (didn't) work last year between OH/XJ.
#157
You have a good point here, when people are lined up out the door why would Compass need to pay more or offer a hotel during training? Apparently they are getting plenty of qualified applicants. At my past regional airline job a hotel was provided during training along with per diem and a reserve equivalent guarantee so not all regionals are this way. The issue right now is that so few companies are hiring and most people on the street can't afford to be too picky. I can see both sides of the argument in this case. Best of luck to both of you.
#158
I've been out of a job since January, you can do the math of how many months of unemployment that comes out to. I'm not telling anyone not to go to Compass. I was just stating the facts in my previous post. People seems so surprised when they hear 15 hours of pay for 30 days, No housing during training, etc. I doesn't surprise me at all, because companies can do whatever the heck they want. They got plenty of people lined up. Supply & Demand. I wouldn't be surprised to see other airlines follow the same standards once things turn around and they start hiring. No more ticket to interview, No more Hotel provided during training, Only Half of guarantee pay until you pass IOE, etc. Just another easy way for them to cut costs. It sucks, but employers got us by the balls right now.
I don't get why Compass is hiring guys with 6000+ Hours, several type ratings, etc. Like you mentioned, most of these guys go there, get some currency and then bail as soon as things start moving. Not everyone wants to go to DL. But again, they can do whatever they want.
Also, as far as the whole "preferential interviews/hiring" for furloughed DCI/ALPA carriers, I heard it is BS. I saw how well it (didn't) work last year between OH/XJ.
I don't get why Compass is hiring guys with 6000+ Hours, several type ratings, etc. Like you mentioned, most of these guys go there, get some currency and then bail as soon as things start moving. Not everyone wants to go to DL. But again, they can do whatever they want.
Also, as far as the whole "preferential interviews/hiring" for furloughed DCI/ALPA carriers, I heard it is BS. I saw how well it (didn't) work last year between OH/XJ.
#159
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,515
well the Delta thread is going crazy.
The delta pilot hiring website just changed again it says,
"We are proudly recruiting pilots for first officer positions"
Delta - Pilot Basics
even though the first page still says they arent currently reviewing applications??
Maybe we aren't getting an icnrease in utilization. Maybe delta is really going to hire?
The delta pilot hiring website just changed again it says,
"We are proudly recruiting pilots for first officer positions"
Delta - Pilot Basics
even though the first page still says they arent currently reviewing applications??
Maybe we aren't getting an icnrease in utilization. Maybe delta is really going to hire?
#160
Speaking of Delta hiring, if you are at Compass, is the flow through the only way to Delta? Can you apply reguarly as well? I seem to remember one of the other airline flow through agreements (Eagle to AA?) had the restriction that pilots at the regional could not apply to the mainline, there only way up was through the flow through.
Not that it matters too much due to the fact they will get thousands of applications, but seniority is pretty important and if you can get it at mainline Delta sooner, all the better.
Thanks
Not that it matters too much due to the fact they will get thousands of applications, but seniority is pretty important and if you can get it at mainline Delta sooner, all the better.
Thanks
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