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woutlaw 09-30-2014 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by PRSwell (Post 1736880)
Does compass have there own upgrade mins? I have over 1000 PIC 135 time but no 121. Per the FARs I believe I would be legal to upgrade with 1000 hrs PIC 135, but not sure if compass has there own mins.

You should be good if the 135 PIC time was in a 10+ seat jet or for a commuter operation.

I may be wrong, it's been known to happen. :-)

By the way I read the regs, the 3,500+ hours of 135 PIC I have is useless for upgrade because it was for a freight operation, which isn't included in 135.243(a)(1).

Not a huge issue for me personally since I'd prefer to wait until I can hold MSP CA and by then I'll have more than the required 1,000 hrs 121 SIC anyway.

Having flown the thing a scant six months, I gotta say that 1,000+ hours learning the Jungle Bus from the right seat before jumping into the left isn't the worst thing in the world.

Will

PILEOAV8R 09-30-2014 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by woutlaw (Post 1737125)
You should be good if the 135 PIC time was in a 10+ seat jet or for a commuter operation.

I may be wrong, it's been known to happen. :-)

By the way I read the regs, the 3,500+ hours of 135 PIC I have is useless for upgrade because it was for a freight operation, which isn't included in 135.243(a)(1).

Not a huge issue for me personally since I'd prefer to wait until I can hold MSP CA and by then I'll have more than the required 1,000 hrs 121 SIC anyway.

Having flown the thing a scant six months, I gotta say that 1,000+ hours learning the Jungle Bus from the right seat before jumping into the left isn't the worst thing in the world.

Will

MSP CA might be a long time coming... Hard to tell what the future holds but as of right now MSP does seem to be growing and in fact may be shrinking slightly...

I've been in the business 7 years and this is the closest I have ever been to upgrade. So I've made the decision to take the first upgrade I can which will be LAX.

Just food for thought...

FlyingMoe 09-30-2014 06:52 AM

Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations on where to stay in Minneapolis during training? (Cost effective would be great since we're paying for it ourselves)

woutlaw 09-30-2014 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by PILEOAV8R (Post 1737139)
MSP CA might be a long time coming... Hard to tell what the future holds but as of right now MSP does seem to be growing and in fact may be shrinking slightly...

I've been in the business 7 years and this is the closest I have ever been to upgrade. So I've made the decision to take the first upgrade I can which will be LAX.

Just food for thought...

Yeah, I totally hear you and it's good food for thought. Appreciate it.

I'm weirdly enjoying being in the right seat after 5 1/2 years in the left, but if it looks like LAX CA May/June-ish is doable I'll have a hard time bypassing.

Either way, I really do enjoy it here. I have a ton to learn, so waiting until I've spent 1,000 hours in the right seat doesn't bother me at all.

It's a good problem to have. :-)

saturn 09-30-2014 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by PILEOAV8R (Post 1737139)
MSP CA might be a long time coming... Hard to tell what the future holds but as of RIGHT NOW MSP does seem to be growing and in fact may be shrinking slightly...

I've been in the business 7 years and this is the closest I have ever been to upgrade. So I've made the decision to take the first upgrade I can which will be LAX.

Just food for thought...

Where do you think the bulk of the captain vacancies will be for the 150+ flows?

bjohnson09 09-30-2014 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by woutlaw (Post 1737125)
You should be good if the 135 PIC time was in a 10+ seat jet or for a commuter operation.

I may be wrong, it's been known to happen. :-)

By the way I read the regs, the 3,500+ hours of 135 PIC I have is useless for upgrade because it was for a freight operation, which isn't included in 135.243(a)(1).

Not a huge issue for me personally since I'd prefer to wait until I can hold MSP CA and by then I'll have more than the required 1,000 hrs 121 SIC anyway.

Having flown the thing a scant six months, I gotta say that 1,000+ hours learning the Jungle Bus from the right seat before jumping into the left isn't the worst thing in the world.

Will

I'm guessing flying PIC under Part 135 on-demand in a Citation Bravo (8 passenger seats) doesn't qualify towards the 1000 hour rule?

3stripes 09-30-2014 09:03 AM

I heard you guys are losing all of your ZED agreements? Has the company mentioned any plans to set up their own?

dickmaster3000 09-30-2014 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by saturn (Post 1737277)
Where do you think the bulk of the captain vacancies will be for the 150+ flows?

I would assume MSP/DTW.. but I plan on holding out for SEA Captain anyway.

woutlaw 09-30-2014 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by bjohnson09 (Post 1737285)
I'm guessing flying PIC under Part 135 on-demand in a Citation Bravo (8 passenger seats) doesn't qualify towards the 1000 hour rule?

That's the way I'd read it, but I could be mistaken.

There is a credit for up to 500 hours of military, multi-engine, multi-pilot, turbine. Single-seat fighter guys are SOL.


§121.436 Pilot Qualification: Certificates and experience requirements.
(a) No certificate holder may use nor may any pilot act as pilot in command of an aircraft (or as second in command of an aircraft in a flag or supplemental operation that requires three or more pilots) unless the pilot:

(1) Holds an airline transport pilot certificate not subject to the limitations in §61.167 of this chapter;

(2) Holds an appropriate aircraft type rating for the aircraft being flown; and

(3) If serving as pilot in command in part 121 operations, has 1,000 hours as second in command in operations under this part, pilot in command in operations under §91.1053(a)(2)(i) of this chapter, pilot in command in operations under §135.243(a)(1) of this chapter, or any combination thereof. For those pilots who are employed as pilot in command in part 121 operations on July 31, 2013, compliance with the requirements of this paragraph (a)(3) is not required.

§ 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.
(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations—
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119 of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.

crewdawg 09-30-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by FlyingMoe (Post 1737182)
Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations on where to stay in Minneapolis during training? (Cost effective would be great since we're paying for it ourselves)

Check out craigslist, my sim partner and I got a heck of a deal on an apartment (need a car). We found a guy that had a finished basement with two rooms, a bathroom and a living room. Well worth driving my car up there. All tolled I think I spent <$1,000 for the whole time I was there (over 2 years ago). You could also check airbnb. You might be able to negotiate a monthly rate with someone.


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