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gojo 04-12-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860670)
So why would they try to pawn off any number of airplanes if they're going to pull them back out of the desert? How long have you worked at Endeavor?

Staffing got too low. After Air Wisconsin refused to fly them for pennies, Delta changed Endeavor's hiring process and offered bonuses. How do you not know this stuff?

Extenda 04-12-2015 01:41 PM

From what they told us in class, They are currently still sending planes to the desert the same way they planned, but in the fall they are going to reverse the flow. I think it's why all of a sudden the classes are split 50/50 to the 900/200, so they have the pilots available when they start to bring them back. We all just got 5-7 weeks off after ground school before sims/ftds. Who knows what's gonna happen though. I am optimistic. Hope Endeavor works out ok. It's definitely a way more upbeat place from when I left for mil leave 3 years ago.

Nantonaku 04-12-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Extenda (Post 1860683)
From what they told us in class, They are currently still sending planes to the desert the same way they planned, but in the fall they are going to reverse the flow. I think it's why all of a sudden the classes are split 50/50 to the 900/200, so they have the pilots available when they start to bring them back. We all just got 5-7 weeks off after ground school before sims/ftds. Who knows what's gonna happen though. I am optimistic. Hope Endeavor works out ok. It's definitely a way more upbeat place from when I left for mil leave 3 years ago.

I'm sure they would like to add all the 200's they can but the question still remains, how do they staff them? I don't see any airline being able to take any large amount of additional flying with any amount of reliability. I think the PSA thing is going to be a huge failure. How many pilots are they trying to hire this year?

pylit4lyfe 04-12-2015 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1860678)
Staffing got too low. After Air Wisconsin refused to fly them for pennies, Delta changed Endeavor's hiring process and offered bonuses. How do you not know this stuff?

How long have you been at Endeavor?

gojo 04-12-2015 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860707)
How long have you been at Endeavor?

As long as it has been Endeavor. Before that Pinnacle, and before that Mesaba. In total over 10 years

Silver02ex 04-12-2015 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1860515)
Seems like you must be losing your touch. Keep trying.


Compass is the opposite of that whole scenario. We are not owned by Delta, we do have a contract with them (which makes it harder for them to take away airplanes if they so choose), we have a SUPER young pilot group with about 1/2 a dozen lifers so we are rock bottom cheap to operate.

I use to think the same thing about Pinnacle in 2007... We have the youngest CRJ fleet, we started to fly for another carrier (Delta) upgrades was around 1-2 months. We were the cheapest. Ask your self how well that 10 year contract work out with Northwest/Delta

AlaskaBound 04-12-2015 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1860726)
I use to think the same thing about Pinnacle in 2007... We have the youngest CRJ fleet, we started to fly for another carrier (Delta) upgrades was around 1-2 months. We were the cheapest. Ask your self how well that 10 year contract work out with Northwest/Delta

Hulas is better at making money than Trenary was. Ternary was/is a crook and sucked you guys down with him. Hulas is cheap as h*** and knows how to run a business.
Pinnacle was never like Compass.

gojo 04-12-2015 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1860731)
Hulas is better at making money than Trenary was. Ternary was/is a crook and sucked you guys down with him. Hulas is cheap as h*** and knows how to run a business.
Pinnacle was never like Compass.

I don't know much about TSA holdings, other than it's privately held. Companies that worry about their shareholders and over priced CEOs seem to want to squeeze more from their employees. I agree with your assessment on Trenary, but then a lot of CEOs are over paid in my mind. I think I read the other day that the average hourly wage for the bigger CEOs is near $6000.00 an hour.

pylit4lyfe 04-12-2015 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1860718)
As long as it has been Endeavor. Before that Pinnacle, and before that Mesaba. In total over 10 years

So when is your class date at Delta? With that kind of seniority you should've had your SSP

IBPilot 04-12-2015 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860741)
So when is your class date at Delta? With that kind of seniority you should've had your SSP

Funny how when some dork looses an argument on here against an Endeavor peep they automatically bring up the SSP, like you must be some loser if you didn't get on via the SSP. News flash, there were people hired via SSP that I wouldn't put my grandmother on their plane, and some of the most stellar pilots I know turned down. Some don't even want to do it for one reason or another.


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