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pylit4lyfe 04-12-2015 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1860756)
Funny how when some dork looses an argument on here against an Endeavor peep they automatically bring up the SSP, like you must be some loser if you didn't get on via the SSP. News flash, there were people hired via SSP that I wouldn't put my grandmother on their plane, and some of the most stellar pilots I know turned down. Some don't even want to do it for one reason or another.

So because I've asked questions I've lost an argument. I know a lot of people that work at Endeavor. I chose to walk away last year for a 135 job because I had no desire to coomute across country for 11 days off. I have no idea where he stands with the SSP. Just a simple question. I know a lot of people that got CJOs. Some people I was surprised they got it and some surprised they didn't. Especially Wychor. He did such a good job at selling the kool aid and he was rejected twice. He must've thought he forsure had it. Then again he didn't do what they told him for his second time around.

Avroman 04-12-2015 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860765)
So because I've asked questions I've lost an argument. I know a lot of people that work at Endeavor. I chose to walk away last year for a 135 job because I had no desire to coomute across country for 11 days off. I have no idea where he stands with the SSP. Just a simple question. I know a lot of people that got CJOs. Some people I was surprised they got it and some surprised they didn't. Especially Wychor. He did such a good job at selling the kool aid and he was rejected twice. He must've thought he forsure had it. Then again he didn't do what they told him for his second time around.

Or he pizzed off so many already at Delta that they blacklisted him. The truth may never be known.... but karma can be a biotch.

gojo 04-12-2015 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860765)
So because I've asked questions I've lost an argument. I know a lot of people that work at Endeavor. I chose to walk away last year for a 135 job because I had no desire to coomute across country for 11 days off. I have no idea where he stands with the SSP. Just a simple question. I know a lot of people that got CJOs. Some people I was surprised they got it and some surprised they didn't. Especially Wychor. He did such a good job at selling the kool aid and he was rejected twice. He must've thought he forsure had it. Then again he didn't do what they told him for his second time around.

Some of your questions or statements don't sound like you're someone in the know. If you were truly part of Endeavor history, or airline history for that matter, you'd know that it isn't only Delta that is wanting to thin the 50 seat lift. Or the fact that further scope limitations regulate larger than 50 seat lift for mainline's regional partners. Delta just happens to be leading the way. You can't compare yesterday's regional market with today's market. Every regional that has 50 seat lift will be reducing that fleet in favor of fewer 70-76 seat lift.

Extenda 04-12-2015 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Nantonaku (Post 1860696)
I'm sure they would like to add all the 200's they can but the question still remains, how do they staff them? I don't see any airline being able to take any large amount of additional flying with any amount of reliability. I think the PSA thing is going to be a huge failure. How many pilots are they trying to hire this year?

The hiring lady said that the class starting in a few days is 23. Ours was 24 I think. They are filling up. Not sure what exact number they would need, but people are coming here. Almost half of the guys in my class came from other 121 carriers.

Bartok 04-12-2015 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860741)
So when is your class date at Delta? With that kind of seniority you should've had your SSP

10 years at Mesaba is not the same as 10 years at pinnacle or Colgan.

They are only now getting through those seniority numbers.

When is your SSP is a better question.

pylit4lyfe 04-13-2015 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1860870)
10 years at Mesaba is not the same as 10 years at pinnacle or Colgan.

They are only now getting through those seniority numbers.

When is your SSP is a better question.

I have friends that were with Colgan for 6-7 years and they've had their interview and friends with 10 years at Colgan. They interviewed over a year ago.

Bartok 04-13-2015 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by pylit4lyfe (Post 1860978)
I have friends that were with Colgan for 6-7 years and they've had their interview and friends with 10 years at Colgan. They interviewed over a year ago.

Lol

I was hired in 01 at Mesaba and have 07 Colgan hires and 06 pinnacle senior to me.

Like I said 10 years at XJ does not equal the others.

Paid2fly 04-13-2015 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by AlaskaBound (Post 1860515)
Seems like you must be losing your touch. Keep trying.

To the OP...I would really be hesitant to join an airline owned by Delta. I would be very nervous about how and when they will shift flying away from you because they just can. No contracts to break, no promises to fulfill. Richard Anderson has proven himself over and over again that he is ruthless and does not make decisions based on the feelings of the pilots but what will make the most money. He will sell Endeavor to the highest bidder and will therefore get rid of the bonus and the SSP whateveritscalled now. Their fleet IS shrinking.
Compass is the opposite of that whole scenario. We are not owned by Delta, we do have a contract with them (which makes it harder for them to take away airplanes if they so choose), we have a SUPER young pilot group with about 1/2 a dozen lifers so we are rock bottom cheap to operate. We have no 50 seaters and we are adding a ton of lift for American Airlines. It's a no brainer.







So, anyone with "no brains" should go to Compost?

TeddyKGB 04-13-2015 02:10 PM

I wold go to the one with the most appealing base to you. The $6,700 quarterly bonus & SSP does add some appeal to 9E. In the big scheme of things someone starting CZ or 9E tomorrow should have very similar QOL. The 9E new hire will make much much much more money over the 1st few years but they are both pretty much the same job so I would go with the one that will allow you the easiest commute chance to live in base.

pylit4lyfe 04-13-2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1861036)
Lol

I was hired in 01 at Mesaba and have 07 Colgan hires and 06 pinnacle senior to me.

Like I said 10 years at XJ does not equal the others.

My point is fo's are interviewing already. They started in March and it went down pretty far the first time. So it was pretty easy to assume that someone who has been there a while would have had their chance. I noticed the person that I asked the original question to is quick to spout off but won't answer that question.


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