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Old 09-19-2017 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Noob2015
30 former employees are getting calls today from the chief. Compass wants repayment for training costs from any pilot who did not complete 12 months of employment from end of training. They quoted me a bill of $8,000.
Actually our CBA allows for recoupment of training costs if you leave before 12 months. I don't remember the exact amount but it is prorated by the month.

Page 11-30 "17. Cost of Training
All new hire Pilots who are type rated pursuant to
subparagraph 11.V.16. above and subsequently resign
within twelve (12) months are responsible to reimburse the
Company for training costs associated with Pilot’s Initial
Training in the amount of twelve thousand dollars
($12,000.00). This amount will be prorated over the twelve
(12) months from completion of training at the rate of onetwelfth
(1/12) per month on payroll. A Pilot who resigns
following a Company announcement of a Pilot layoff which
(i) includes the Pilot, or (ii) the Pilot could reasonably
presume would include the Pilot, will not be required to
reimburse this cost."
Old 09-19-2017 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by AKNGPilot
Actually our CBA allows for recoupment of training costs if you leave before 12 months. I don't remember the exact amount but it is prorated by the month.

Page 11-30 "17. Cost of Training
All new hire Pilots who are type rated pursuant to
subparagraph 11.V.16. above and subsequently resign
within twelve (12) months are responsible to reimburse the
Company for training costs associated with Pilot’s Initial
Training in the amount of twelve thousand dollars
($12,000.00). This amount will be prorated over the twelve
(12) months from completion of training at the rate of onetwelfth
(1/12) per month on payroll. A Pilot who resigns
following a Company announcement of a Pilot layoff which
(i) includes the Pilot, or (ii) the Pilot could reasonably
presume would include the Pilot, will not be required to
reimburse this cost."
Past practice was they had you sign a sheet on day 1 of employement. I'd fight it if you didn't sign anything as past practice can trump what's written in the contract. They can't just ignore part of the contract and then start enforcing it when they choose.
Old 09-19-2017 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by veewan
Well of course they'll say they're being screwed, but why did ALPA help the guy unless he had a legitimate reason?

I get that unions protect workers and sometimess even incompetent ones, but no one else is curious if this actually happened the way that I've described it?
He paid his dues, he deserves representation and someone fighting for him regardless of what he did. That's how the union works. However, there's alwayyyys more to the story. You're just rehashing something old that you don't know any of the details or facts about.

Originally Posted by BlueMoon
They can't just ignore part of the contract and then start enforcing it when they choose.
Unless it's a signing bonus
Old 09-19-2017 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Noob2015
30 former employees are getting calls today from the chief. Compass wants repayment for training costs from any pilot who did not complete 12 months of employment from end of training. They quoted me a bill of $8,000.


Just had a buddy drop a $7,500 check in the mail - he was worried they would contact his new (aka dream) employer.
Old 09-19-2017 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AKNGPilot
Actually our CBA allows for recoupment of training costs if you leave before 12 months. I don't remember the exact amount but it is prorated by the month.

Page 11-30 "17. Cost of Training
All new hire Pilots who are type rated pursuant to
subparagraph 11.V.16. above and subsequently resign
within twelve (12) months are responsible to reimburse the
Company for training costs associated with Pilot’s Initial
Training in the amount of twelve thousand dollars
($12,000.00). This amount will be prorated over the twelve
(12) months from completion of training at the rate of onetwelfth
(1/12) per month on payroll. A Pilot who resigns
following a Company announcement of a Pilot layoff which
(i) includes the Pilot, or (ii) the Pilot could reasonably
presume would include the Pilot, will not be required to
reimburse this cost."
Three thousand per quarter served with the company. So, 3 months in, you d owe 9, 6, 6K, 9 months, 3K, 12 months...nothing.
Old 09-19-2017 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Rooshki
Just had a buddy drop a $7,500 check in the mail - he was worried they would contact his new (aka dream) employer.
Your buddy just gave 7.5k to a bunch of thieves. They can't by law contact a new employer, and he didn't sign any contract and thus didn't owe them anything. I'm afraid more people will get conned like that. Shame on Compass!
Old 09-19-2017 | 04:02 PM
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Yeah I'm still having a hard time buying this.
Old 09-19-2017 | 04:56 PM
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If they are actually trying to go after guys for money, how's the balance sheet?

I still can't imagine that they'd go after guys for a training contract...especially since unlike other airlines, no one was made to sign a promissory note.
Old 09-19-2017 | 05:05 PM
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[MENTION=23664]Poser765[/MENTION] time to start believing. I've heard from people outside of the forum.
Old 09-19-2017 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PanchoBarnes
[MENTION=23664]Poser765[/MENTION] time to start believing. I've heard from people outside of the forum.
What I don't understand is why there is the feeling of being exempt from what's going on at the other TSH companies? Please enlighten me, what makes Compass the golden child?
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