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Old 10-31-2017 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WingedCelt
Just wanted to throw in an aside about the recent Union elections today.



Results were posted, and I was shocked. For as much whining and complaining that occurs around here, I figured there would be a much better turn out.



There are 618 eligible voters. 90 of you voted. That is 14.5 percent voter turnout. You guys make an investment into the Association at a rate of 2% per check, and I would think that if you are pouring money into something, you'd at least want to know what you are doing with it or have a share.



Effectively, 90 people are making decisions, through the election, what the other 530-540 are going to be doing for the next three years. Let that sink in.



Based on the turnout, people must be pretty happy here or do not have a care in the world about the Association and what they do.


I think why most don’t vote is because they have no idea who the people running are.


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Old 10-31-2017 | 11:08 AM
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A union is only as strong as its members who actively participate. Companies prey on weak membership numbers.
Old 10-31-2017 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Seriously? You got a snail mail election ballot, as well as numerous emails on how to vote electronically. Make sure your ALPA emails arent going into your spam folders. There are daily ALPA emails and frequent CPZ ALPA emails
This right here.
Old 10-31-2017 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772
I think why most don’t vote is because they have no idea who the people running are.


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In that aspect, I was unable to get my election email out in time due to some procedural stuff. I did my best to speak to a bunch of LA crew members and those that I jumpseated on.
Old 10-31-2017 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by N914FJ
A union is only as strong as its members who actively participate. Companies prey on weak membership numbers.
Bingo. This is the nail on the head.
Old 10-31-2017 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Seriously? You got a snail mail election ballot, as well as numerous emails on how to vote electronically. Make sure your ALPA emails arent going into your spam folders. There are daily ALPA emails and frequent CPZ ALPA emails
This^^

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Old 10-31-2017 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Seriously? You got a snail mail election ballot, as well as numerous emails on how to vote electronically. Make sure your ALPA emails arent going into your spam folders. There are daily ALPA emails and frequent CPZ ALPA emails
I rather not vote. These so call candidate didn't even send out a mission statement or at least an introduction about themselves, so you want us to just randomly picked one?

BTW during the last election early this year, one of the candidate already had a class date with the big boy during the ballot, glad this person didn't get selected or a huge waste of time!
Old 10-31-2017 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by WingedCelt
Just wanted to throw in an aside about the recent Union elections today.

Results were posted, and I was shocked. For as much whining and complaining that occurs around here, I figured there would be a much better turn out.

There are 618 eligible voters. 90 of you voted. That is 14.5 percent voter turnout. You guys make an investment into the Association at a rate of 2% per check, and I would think that if you are pouring money into something, you'd at least want to know what you are doing with it or have a share.

Effectively, 90 people are making decisions, through the election, what the other 530-540 are going to be doing for the next three years. Let that sink in.

Based on the turnout, people must be pretty happy here or do not have a care in the world about the Association and what they do.
I saw zero campaigning by any of the candidates. Even if people wanted to make an informed decision, there was very little to no information available. When that is the case, the voting will favor the status quo.

We're not a career destination (and that's how it should be), but that shouldn't be mutually exclusive with wanting to make this a better place to work.
Old 10-31-2017 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Seriously? You got a snail mail election ballot, as well as numerous emails on how to vote electronically. Make sure your ALPA emails arent going into your spam folders. There are daily ALPA emails and frequent CPZ ALPA emails


False. Didn’t get jack squat. I’m a huge union supporters and I’ve been a little disappointed how little communication there has been but now I’m thinking that I must be missing from mailings for some reason.


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Old 10-31-2017 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by morerightrudder
I saw zero campaigning by any of the candidates. Even if people wanted to make an informed decision, there was very little to no information available. When that is the case, the voting will favor the status quo.

We're not a career destination (and that's how it should be), but that shouldn't be mutually exclusive with wanting to make this a better place to work.
Why should any airline job not be a "career destination"? You are contradicting yourself with your statement and this is exactly the attitude that holds this entire sector of the industry back.
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