Time to leave this career?
04-10-2020 | 12:30 PM
#91
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Well as a millennial, on the front end of the generation, I quit flying because I found it ridiculous I could make more money driving a tractor baling hay than flying. Albeit it required me to on average log 23 days in a row during first cutting in June where I worked 17 hour days but I was making an astonishing greater amount of money.
So, please tell me more about how I wouldn't fly because I wouldn't "put-up with the hassels of a real job."
So, please tell me more about how I wouldn't fly because I wouldn't "put-up with the hassels of a real job."
i personally think you made a wise decision....the airline industry is so fragile and the return can be devastating( if your timing is off. ) Once October hits I’d be willing to bet mass furloughs. Tons and tons of qualified pilots on the streets. Not worth the debt
04-10-2020 | 12:30 PM
#92
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Let me also refine this point a bit...
For those who are not at the majors, staying in aviation even if at a lower pay scale makes sense.
Every hour I fly makes me more competitive to get to the majors. If I leave the career, even temporarily, simply because the pay is lower than what it used to be, I am no longer advancing my career.
If you are climbing the ladder then it is better to continue flying, even if at near minimum wage (assuming your budget can handle it) than to stop flying.
So if I was a regional CA and I was making $100k, and they dropped it back to $40k because of economic reasons, it would still benefit me to continue flying a greatly reduced pay because it means my options would gradually increase as my hours build.
For those who are not at the majors, staying in aviation even if at a lower pay scale makes sense.
Every hour I fly makes me more competitive to get to the majors. If I leave the career, even temporarily, simply because the pay is lower than what it used to be, I am no longer advancing my career.
If you are climbing the ladder then it is better to continue flying, even if at near minimum wage (assuming your budget can handle it) than to stop flying.
So if I was a regional CA and I was making $100k, and they dropped it back to $40k because of economic reasons, it would still benefit me to continue flying a greatly reduced pay because it means my options would gradually increase as my hours build.
04-10-2020 | 02:08 PM
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Someone once said “in aviation, sh!t rolls uphill.” It’s crazy how true that is.
As soon as the entry level workers accept pay cuts they’re dooming everyone else to the same fate.
04-12-2020 | 11:38 PM
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this is barely a job. waking up and going to fly a few legs a few times a week is a whole lot better than other careers. trust me.
now look at being with a legacy in 20 years. you're making over 1/4 million dollars a year and barely working. guys who make that much work their tail off.
now look at being with a legacy in 20 years. you're making over 1/4 million dollars a year and barely working. guys who make that much work their tail off.
Flying for Piedmont doesn't excuse that asinine post. I wasn't that clueless at the regionals and I was there a long time..."barely working". If that's how you really feel then you must suck at your job.
04-13-2020 | 05:04 AM
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I look at the tenets of CRM and can apply those skills across any range of career opportunities.
04-13-2020 | 07:24 AM
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Barely a job? Any of us who make 1/4 million are not "barely working" with the exception of a handful of widebody captains on reserve who have about 25-30 years of seniority. If you don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't pretend to.
Flying for Piedmont doesn't excuse that asinine post. I wasn't that clueless at the regionals and I was there a long time..."barely working". If that's how you really feel then you must suck at your job.
Flying for Piedmont doesn't excuse that asinine post. I wasn't that clueless at the regionals and I was there a long time..."barely working". If that's how you really feel then you must suck at your job.
Now you can make your airline job feel much more like work by doing things like a two-leg transcon commute.
04-13-2020 | 09:18 AM
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Well as a millennial, on the front end of the generation, I quit flying because I found it ridiculous I could make more money driving a tractor baling hay than flying. Albeit it required me to on average log 23 days in a row during first cutting in June where I worked 17 hour days but I was making an astonishing greater amount of money.
So, please tell me more about how I wouldn't fly because I wouldn't "put-up with the hassels of a real job."
So, please tell me more about how I wouldn't fly because I wouldn't "put-up with the hassels of a real job."
04-13-2020 | 10:49 AM
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Oh yes, Ag income is down, It will probably continue to go down for spot grain transactions. However, luckily we have a lot forward contracted that will help. Additionally, in farming, the decisions that doom an operation generally aren’t made when the markets are in the ditch, they are made 5-10 years before when things were booming. Our operation owns most of the ground we farm and runs older equipment, so, the overhead is less in our situation. A down market can provide tremendous opportunity in the long term, at least in my opinion.
Last edited by 4020Driver; 04-13-2020 at 11:01 AM.
04-13-2020 | 04:37 PM
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You’re not getting paid just for the work, you’re getting paid for the lifestyle/health hit. Sleep cycle disruptions, chemical exposure, Stress, noise, etc. It’s also a carrot to keep people working for crumbs on the bottom end.
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