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Old 04-17-2020 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
i wouldn’t start training until DPE’s are giving check rides again. I’m sure there is a backup, and if you are ready, you’ll just wait in line. Which will cost you money trying to stay “fresh” for the ride.
You are the devil on my left. Like in cartoon.
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Old 04-17-2020 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant
You are the devil on my left. Like in cartoon.
If you haven't even started you're training yet, then there's no one on this anonymous board to give you a plausible answer on what you should do. That's a personal decision for you to make based on your own life circumstances.

However, I wouldn't recommended going into deep debt for flight training. By the time the regionals start hiring again, which probably won't be until the majors start hiring again, you're gonna have a lot of competitive pilots out there searching for the same jobs. CPZ and LOF alone have hundreds of pilots on the street right now.

All these LIFT, cadet, Lufthansa etc programs will be canceled and may not come back for years, if ever.

Keep your day job, again assuming you have one, and train on days off. Pay as you go and stay out of debt. That's the best advice anyone can give you at this point cause no one knows what's gonna happen 3, 6, or 12 months in the future.
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Old 04-18-2020 | 03:55 AM
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Dont listen to anyone here (except me).

Just make your decision like you would an investment. I.e: money in vs expected return. Oh and make sure you consider a hypothetical return on the more esoteric, like job satisfaction but make sure this is weighed up against stress etc(and all other possible negatives).

Simple.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 12:47 PM
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I am doing all I can for those who come after me. I am hanging it up and retiring. I don't really need to do this anymore and I will step aside and make room for those who do need to keep working. I have had a great run, retired from a good major 121 job to Part 135, so I will step down and leave a hole for someone else to fill.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 02:33 PM
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I’ve got 30 years in this career and am still employed. At age 53 I’m signing up for online classes to get a nursing degree. I’m afraid most of us won’t have a choice. I’m not optimistic about my chances of retiring a pilot. I think the grand haircut is beginning. Good luck all!
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Old 04-21-2020 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I’ve got 30 years in this career and am still employed. At age 53 I’m signing up for online classes to get a nursing degree. I’m afraid most of us won’t have a choice. I’m not optimistic about my chances of retiring a pilot. I think the grand haircut is beginning. Good luck all!
Im considering the same thing. Can you name your school? For a few more years of school, the CRNA certification offers a very good QOL.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Im considering the same thing. Can you name your school? For a few more years of school, the CRNA certification offers a very good QOL.
I’ll take the name also. UA just said they don’t see flying coming back for years and are planning accordingly. Game over.
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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cezzna
I’ve got 30 years in this career and am still employed. At age 53 I’m signing up for online classes to get a nursing degree. I’m afraid most of us won’t have a choice. I’m not optimistic about my chances of retiring a pilot. I think the grand haircut is beginning. Good luck all!
Originally Posted by domino
I’ll take the name also. UA just said they don’t see flying coming back for years and are planning accordingly. Game over.
It's absolutely commendable what you guys are doing to diversify, but........why such extreme negativity?

Sure, we are in a rough patch now, and likely will be for a few/several more months in all likelihood, but people WILL come back roaring to travel. Especially since they are mad as hell they've been homebound for so long, and because the economy was on fire just 2 months ago.

Not to mention all these retirements for the next decade will still be happening. On the other hand, there were very few retirements during the lost decade, not to mention age 65 stagnation on top of that.

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Old 04-21-2020 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
It's absolutely commendable what you guys are doing to diversify, but........why such extreme negativity?
Half the pilots on this board believe there’s been an overreaching government response to CV (that includes me). The other half think the first half is a bunch of dumb@$$es and that we need to do more quarantining.

At first it was “flatten the curve.” Now it’s “no restriction is too great if it saves one life.”

There will never be a vaccine (CV morphs too quickly to have an effective vaccine). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, will die if we go down the herd immunity path-the media will paralyze the American people with fear.

IMO, this response in this political climate is the path to universal basic income. “The government said I had to stay home and couldn’t work, therefore the government is responsible for paying my salary.” If the Dems do well in Nov, look for AOC and the gang to begin implementing the Green New Deal. They could never persuade us to adopt the GND, but in the name of “personal safety” (ala CV-19), they can impose the GND on us. No room for airline careers (good salaries and benefits) in the GND.

Im in a pessimistic mood tonight. I’ll feel better after some sleep. But this is my fear of where this could go.

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Old 04-22-2020 | 04:04 AM
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Humans weren’t satisfied with East Africa, Africa, Southern Europe, eurasia, Northern Europe, England, Ireland, Iceland, Greenland, nova scocia, all of the amiericas, the bottom of the oceans, space, inner space, the sky, mining in the earth........there is no way people are just done traveling. Chill Winston.

They can’t even build a 400 mile train in California above ground..... trains for the green deal thing just isn’t going to happen. It’ll cost too much.

stop watching alarmist media, take this time with a beer and be stoked that we aren’t getting ALV+15 shoved down our throats all summer.

if you are the bottom of a list, I fully realize this will most likely hit you. And you have my empathy. I will gladly pay some extra dues to float guys or whatever we are suppose to do to help out.
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