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Old 04-09-2020, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB View Post
Crashpads are totally illegal in multiple ways in most, if not all, jurisdictions. (Unless it’s really small). Public health laws being one reason....
Airlines need to get hotel rooms for incoming and outgoing aircrew. This whole notion that they don't "need" to help their employees while outside a pairing footprint is lawyeristically uncaring. Airlines are horrible businesses - they get away with far too much. We can't rely on the FAA to assure health, sanitation, and fatigue. They are bought and paid for as we have seen with the 737 Max and their 60+ yr inaction on cabin fumes. The only solution is for us and ALPA to highlight these deficiencies to the media and social media to short circuit their PR efforts. Crashpad inhabitants need to take lots of pictures and videos of crashpads to shame elected public servants into action. Furthermore, airlines do need to be held legally liable. You can walk into any airline and see walls of advertisements for crashpads, not to mention numerous websites listing them. Many of these slumlords are your coworkers.

Furthermore, BJ must not be allowed to claim "act of God" when it comes to pandemics either.
  • What stopped BJ from having more friendly commuter policies that don't force commuters to come in a day early or leave a day after? Even just needing a single offline commute opportunity without the draconian dependability policy would help a lot.
  • What stopped BJ from not having a dependability policy that encourages sick people coming to work? (remember it's not just COVID-19 that is concerning -- lots of people go to work with the Influenza virus and the 'common cold', which is also a virus) $$$
  • What stopped them from stockpiling N95 masks and Clorox wipes throughout the year? It's not like pandemics are unprecedented... MERS, Influenza, and other medical conditions like Methicillin-Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA) were there prior to the Chinese Communist Coronavirus. $$$
  • Let us not forget the report on aircraft potable water bacterial counts. $$$
  • What stopped them from using copper metal surfaces on door handles, railings, and other common tread areas? (oh yeah, $$$ that was instead used on stock buybacks)
  • Did JetBlue Tech Ventures spend $2,000 to study the effect of using ultraviolet wavelength light to help mitigate virus spread in between each flight? [even I knew about that one]
  • What stopped them from envisioning and even designing aircraft cabins that provide positive pressure airflow that immediately evacuate breathing air overboard? There's no reason why aerosolized contagions couldn't be mitigated by AC systems that are designed for respiratory health. $$$
  • https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/113597...arket-lingers/ Nice video showing how easily viruses spread. There was once a visualization of how a virus or bacteria can infest an entire aircraft within a minute just from breathing.
  • If they try to claim they didn't have time or money resources, remember they spent lots of both on worthless social justice causes like fake diversity instead of focusing only on accomplishments.
I have absolutely no sympathy for Johanna and her cronies who didn't do their due diligence in preventing these known adversaries from causing such long lasting harm to our personnel. Just like Trump is calling out the WHO for their failures, pilots at all airlines must do the same for airline management and public servants. You pay a fortune to ALPA - they need to have lawsuits ready to go.

Management gets paid a fortune to think of these things. Do not be fooled by their virtue signaling of giving up their salaries temporarily. After C-19 runs its course, the same exploitation agenda will come back with a vengeance to make them more $$$ and to fund their golden parachutes.
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Old 04-09-2020, 10:16 AM
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Sorry, but as an off & on commuter over the years, the crashpad situation will not be getting us much sympathy. Let’s be honest, commuting is a choice and so is getting a hotel in domicile or utilizing a crashpad. Just calling it like the public is gonna view it.
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Old 04-09-2020, 10:34 AM
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Sorry, but as an off & on commuter over the years, the crashpad situation will not be getting us much sympathy. Let’s be honest, commuting is a choice and so is getting a hotel in domicile or utilizing a crashpad. Just calling it like the public is gonna view it.
This is likely the case, however one could also make the argument that the cost of living prohibits junior-ish F.O.s from residing in high cost areas. JR bases are NY & BOS.
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Old 04-09-2020, 10:51 AM
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This is likely the case, however one could also make the argument that the cost of living prohibits junior-ish F.O.s from residing in high cost areas. JR bases are NY & BOS.
public won’t care.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:01 AM
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public won’t care.
Apathy is not a strategy.

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Old 04-09-2020, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HogEars View Post
This is likely the case, however one could also make the argument that the cost of living prohibits junior-ish F.O.s from residing in high cost areas. JR bases are NY & BOS.
You meant to say prohibits junior-ish FOs from living in their dream homes in high cost areas.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:17 AM
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You meant to say prohibits junior-ish FOs from living in their dream homes in high cost areas.
So people are moving from low cost areas to take jobs that pay less than market rate in high cost areas? Nah bro.
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Whatevs. This thread is derailed. I'm out.

Thoughts and prayers.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:35 AM
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I’d give up some Scope in the CBA... in exchange for copper railings and elevator buttons in JFK Ops.
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Old 04-10-2020, 06:20 PM
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Whatevs. This thread is derailed. I'm out.

Thoughts and prayers.
Wait, I thought we were no longer allowed to say thoughts and prayers anymore.....media said it was just too patronizing?
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