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Old 04-07-2020, 11:54 AM
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One of the wives has posted on a B6 wives social media page that her husband just passed away from Covid 19. Advised the CP office this past week he had it. Unverified other than this post. Looking into. Found name on seniority list. Junior. Age...49.

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Yep. Terrible news. Great guy. Deteriorated quickly. This is no joke. Prayers for the family.
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Yep. Terrible news. Great guy. Deteriorated quickly. This is no joke. Prayers for the family.

The KCM line in CLT was shut down last week. They had 30 crewmembers less than a foot apart going through the normal lane. Van pulled up at hotel and 8 off line FAs packed in. They wanted to jam my crew of 4 in there. I pinged an Uber black. Hotel found other van. Where exactly is the social distancing again? I get I commute. So I have to wedge myself between Eddie Ebola and Glenda Gonorrhea in a middle seat. Especially now since only 1 in 12 flights is going to NYC from my city. But we’re riding air trains, sitting in the same rooms in hotels (so they don’t have to space us out so rooms are easier to clean), hotel shuttles, and eating carry outs from potentially asymptomatic employees. All to fly 2 legs of a four day. Really? I don’t know what the answer is.. But we should be told whether our crews are testing positive and at what rate.
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But HIPAA laws!
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My deepest condolences to his family and the family of jetblue
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Old 04-07-2020, 05:54 PM
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All to fly 2 legs of a four day. Really? I don’t know what the answer is.. But we should be told whether our crews are testing positive and at what rate.
100%. The airlines (not just JB) are going to be facing serious repercussions when this all winds down. You have crewmembers literally dying in order to fly 3 people to a destination. Borderline insanity at this point.

If someone tests positive then we need to know when and where. You dont have to give names, but having actual numbers would give us a much better idea of what we're truly dealing with.
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HIPAA Laws have nothing to do with it. Bad PR has everything to do with it. The company has an affirmative duty to inform crewmembers of possible exposure. They cannot identify the suspect person, but they don’t have to. A date would suffice. With that ambiguity, it could be TSA, Gate Agent, Tech Ops, someone in the crew room, a passenger, etc ... Anonymity and the prospective patient’s rights are preserved. Every airline wants to cover up the number of infected, positive, and deceased, because every airline is absolutely doing the minimum or less to protect their employees.
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HIPAA Laws have nothing to do with it. Bad PR has everything to do with it. The company has an affirmative duty to inform crewmembers of possible exposure. They cannot identify the suspect person, but they don’t have to. A date would suffice. With that ambiguity, it could be TSA, Gate Agent, Tech Ops, someone in the crew room, a passenger, etc ... Anonymity and the prospective patient’s rights are preserved. Every airline wants to cover up the number of infected, positive, and deceased, because every airline is absolutely doing the minimum or less to protect their employees.
What leads you to believe anyone is covering anything up?
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The bagger and checker at my local grocery store are closer than we are. They also come into close contact with more people in a shift. Why are we special?

Stay focused on the fact that we lost a coworker, not that any airline is to blame.
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The bagger and checker at my local grocery store are closer than we are. They also come into close contact with more people in a shift. Why are we special?

Stay focused on the fact that we lost a coworker, not that any airline is to blame.
Nobody is saying we are special. The way this is all being handled though is absolutely **** poor.

The baggers/checkers at my grocery store have been behind a 4x4 sheet of plexi-glass to keep them safer, and are not allowed to handle customers reusable bags and are provided with wipes and hand sanitizer for when they handle cash.

The airlines have been telling people to continue working without providing PPE, and if someone you worked with tests positive, to continue working unless you show symptoms. We have cockpit cleaning which is nice, but it's not a daily routine and numerous crews, techs, airport workers and 3rd party workers pass through it between flights. 1 of my last 4 flights had wipes onboard for cleaning. Social distancing is not a thing, hotels continue to put crews on the same floor for easier cleaning for their staff, and we continue to operate into and out of hot zones.

Like I said, I think there's going to be real legal repurcussions when this all ends. Not just our industry, but multiple. I'm no legal genius but I feel like me having an email that says I've been exposed to the virus and 'You can continue working until you develop symptoms' would be a field day for any lawyer.
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