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Old 07-13-2020 | 10:57 PM
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Those articles are completely misleading, and go against actual science. Don't read media articles, read actual papers from professional scientists.
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Old 07-14-2020 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Sweden has achieved herd immunity...
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The US should be in this position within a few weeks.
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A vaccine won't last...
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Don't read media articles, read actual papers from professional scientists.
​​​​​​​Can you share the "actual papers from professional scientists" that you've read to reach your previous three conclusions?
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Old 07-14-2020 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Those articles are completely misleading, and go against actual science. Don't read media articles, read actual papers from professional scientists.
Like the good Doc Fauci? Is he pro scientist enough?
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Old 07-14-2020 | 01:35 PM
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The average age of death in Sweden was 86 years old. They have larger and more old age homes than Denmark and a much larger 3rd world immigrant population, which was another center of COVID-19 cases.

In addition, neither Sweden nor Denmark recommend face masks in public.

I don’t think the article you attached has much to do with science, in fact it seems to be promoting a political agenda.
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Old 07-15-2020 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Sweden has achieved herd immunity, how long that lasts with fleeting antibodies, will be dependent on how long they can keep their borders sealed. The US should be in this position within a few weeks.

A vaccine won't last, airlines have to come to terms that there will be no international flying until this virus is gone for several years.

Wow that is quite a bunch of assumptions. None of which are supported by research by experts in the field. If there is no international flying none of the big three are going to survive. A vaccine will need boosters that seems clear but it becomes we a get your flu and Covid shot every fall. As to herd immunity I would love to know how you got there.
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Old 07-15-2020 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
Like the good Doc Fauci? Is he pro scientist enough?
Check out Fauci's history. He's a shady dude and in general, doctors are always overcautious and alarmist. Think of the attention and funding they have received over this ridiculousness. For such a low mortality rate?
This is a Scam-demic to injure the country financially and damage the admin. Talk to your friends in the local medical community- Mine tell me this is total bs and the covid numbers are fairy tails. Im sure the truth is in the middle, but for you to put all of your faith in Fauci is just irresponsible.
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Old 07-15-2020 | 12:50 PM
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Check out Fauci's history. He's a shady dude and in general, doctors are always overcautious and alarmist. Think of the attention and funding they have received over this ridiculousness. For such a low mortality rate?
This is a Scam-demic to injure the country financially and damage the admin. Talk to your friends in the local medical community- Mine tell me this is total bs and the covid numbers are fairy tails. Im sure the truth is in the middle, but for you to put all of your faith in Fauci is just irresponsible.
Yes, the whole world has conspired together in a conspiracy about a fake pandemic to injure the economy and this administration's reelection chances. That makes total sense. I'm sure your anecdotal experiences are more credible than the public health officials in virtually EVERY COUNTRY in the world. Also, I've talked to my doctor friends, and they think tinfoil hat people like you are morons.

The fact that people STILL believe this goes to show how delusional and idiotic a significant portion of this country is. People like you are why America is losing the war against this virus. We could've won it by now, we could've been returning to normal, our economy could still be intact, if not for the fools like you who think your ignorance is as valuable as an expert's facts, and the politicians pandering to this ignorance.

And before you resort to the typical "liberal hoax" talking point, please explain why virtually every other country has been able to get it under control? What, specifically, has been different about the countries that have succeeded?

I'll answer for you: leadership based on science.
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Old 07-15-2020 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Downtime
As to herd immunity I would love to know how you got there.
Math modeling(which my degree is in). Experts are assuming that anyone can get the virus, (this has a huge political component to it) but if you enter real world data, I used the Diamond Princess, ~50% are naturally already immune to Covid. I wrongly assumed it was primarily genetic factors, but this paper says it's for another reason https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z
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Old 07-15-2020 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by furloughfuntime
Yes, the whole world has conspired together in a conspiracy about a fake pandemic to injure the economy and this administration's reelection chances. That makes total sense. I'm sure your anecdotal experiences are more credible than the public health officials in virtually EVERY COUNTRY in the world. Also, I've talked to my doctor friends, and they think tinfoil hat people like you are morons.

The fact that people STILL believe this goes to show how delusional and idiotic a significant portion of this country is. People like you are why America is losing the war against this virus. We could've won it by now, we could've been returning to normal, our economy could still be intact, if not for the fools like you who think your ignorance is as valuable as an expert's facts, and the politicians pandering to this ignorance.

And before you resort to the typical "liberal hoax" talking point, please explain why virtually every other country has been able to get it under control? What, specifically, has been different about the countries that have succeeded?

I'll answer for you: leadership based on science.
Every word here is right on. It's the tinfoil hat morons that are truly prolonging this agony we're all enduring, by refusing to wear a *** mask, and willfully spreading this virus because, like 5 year old children, they resent being told what to do.

The ability of some to ignore reality, then deny it, then invent their own alternate reality, is quite apparent these days. It's exactly why our country, once a superpower, is handling this virus about as well as a banana republic led by a dictator.
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Old 07-15-2020 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Math modeling(which my degree is in). Experts are assuming that anyone can get the virus, (this has a huge political component to it) but if you enter real world data, I used the Diamond Princess, ~50% are naturally already immune to Covid.
Give us your estimation when we'll see the new infections start to decline using your modeling.

I suspect it will be very soon, now that ODL has control of the data.
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