TSA Numbers
#1032
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On Saturday night CNN will make an attempt to thwart the 1,000,000 pax milestone with scary airline stories... It's too early for 1 million passengers.
#1035
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
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I posted this elsewhere, Im surprised the North East is getting more harsh. This article came out a few hours ago.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-loosens-coronavirus-pandemic-travel-restrictions-on-visitors-from-4-states/ar-BB1a6QVD
Massachusetts officials on Friday moved California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category for COVID-19 transmission, meaning visitors to Massachusetts from those four states will have an easier time when they get here.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health announced the change in a statement and said the state was also changing the way it assesses the risk level posed by people arriving from different states.
The Department of Public Health’s metric for determining a state’s risk level for purposes of interstate travel policy will consider two weeks of data before moving a state from lower-risk to higher-risk, the statement said.
The metric will consider one week of data before moving states in the other direction, into the lower-risk category, the statement said.
The state also said it would be raising the threshold of cases per 100,000 that would designate a state as higher-risk, from 6 cases per 100,000 to 10 cases per 100,000. The statement said officials were “bringing Massachusetts' standard more in line with other states.” (Massachusetts itself had been failing to meet its own standard since late September, when its case rate went over 6. This week, the rate was 8.7 percent.)
The change had immediate implications for visitors from four states.
“Following this, Massachusetts updated today its state travel list, moving California, Hawaii, New Jersey and Washington state from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category. This is effective at 12:01 am on 10/17," the statement said. "Travelers arriving from these states will no longer need to fill out the MA Travel Form and follow quarantine rules under the travel order.”
The full list of low-risk states on the Massachusetts website Friday: California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Vermont and Washington.
Visitors to Massachusetts from any other state must either quarantine for 14 days once they arrive or produce a negative coronavirus test that had been administered up to 72 hours prior to getting here. They must also fill out an official Massachusetts Travel Form.“All individuals arriving in Massachusetts by any means or mode, including Massachusetts residents who have left the state for anything more than transitory travel, are covered by the Massachusetts travel rule,” the state says on its website. “Accordingly, even travelers not required to complete the form should act in compliance with the rule.”
There are a number of exceptions to the rule, including commuters coming into Massachusetts for work or school, patients seeking or receiving medical treatment, military personnel traveling to the state for official duty, and workers providing critical infrastructure services, according to mass.gov.
Dasia Moore of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-loosens-coronavirus-pandemic-travel-restrictions-on-visitors-from-4-states/ar-BB1a6QVD
Massachusetts officials on Friday moved California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category for COVID-19 transmission, meaning visitors to Massachusetts from those four states will have an easier time when they get here.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health announced the change in a statement and said the state was also changing the way it assesses the risk level posed by people arriving from different states.
The Department of Public Health’s metric for determining a state’s risk level for purposes of interstate travel policy will consider two weeks of data before moving a state from lower-risk to higher-risk, the statement said.
The metric will consider one week of data before moving states in the other direction, into the lower-risk category, the statement said.
The state also said it would be raising the threshold of cases per 100,000 that would designate a state as higher-risk, from 6 cases per 100,000 to 10 cases per 100,000. The statement said officials were “bringing Massachusetts' standard more in line with other states.” (Massachusetts itself had been failing to meet its own standard since late September, when its case rate went over 6. This week, the rate was 8.7 percent.)
The change had immediate implications for visitors from four states.
“Following this, Massachusetts updated today its state travel list, moving California, Hawaii, New Jersey and Washington state from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category. This is effective at 12:01 am on 10/17," the statement said. "Travelers arriving from these states will no longer need to fill out the MA Travel Form and follow quarantine rules under the travel order.”
The full list of low-risk states on the Massachusetts website Friday: California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Vermont and Washington.
Visitors to Massachusetts from any other state must either quarantine for 14 days once they arrive or produce a negative coronavirus test that had been administered up to 72 hours prior to getting here. They must also fill out an official Massachusetts Travel Form.“All individuals arriving in Massachusetts by any means or mode, including Massachusetts residents who have left the state for anything more than transitory travel, are covered by the Massachusetts travel rule,” the state says on its website. “Accordingly, even travelers not required to complete the form should act in compliance with the rule.”
There are a number of exceptions to the rule, including commuters coming into Massachusetts for work or school, patients seeking or receiving medical treatment, military personnel traveling to the state for official duty, and workers providing critical infrastructure services, according to mass.gov.
Dasia Moore of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
#1036
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
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I posted this elsewhere, Im surprised the North East is getting more harsh. This article came out a few hours ago.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-loosens-coronavirus-pandemic-travel-restrictions-on-visitors-from-4-states/ar-BB1a6QVD
Massachusetts officials on Friday moved California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category for COVID-19 transmission, meaning visitors to Massachusetts from those four states will have an easier time when they get here.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health announced the change in a statement and said the state was also changing the way it assesses the risk level posed by people arriving from different states.
The Department of Public Health’s metric for determining a state’s risk level for purposes of interstate travel policy will consider two weeks of data before moving a state from lower-risk to higher-risk, the statement said.
The metric will consider one week of data before moving states in the other direction, into the lower-risk category, the statement said.
The state also said it would be raising the threshold of cases per 100,000 that would designate a state as higher-risk, from 6 cases per 100,000 to 10 cases per 100,000. The statement said officials were “bringing Massachusetts' standard more in line with other states.” (Massachusetts itself had been failing to meet its own standard since late September, when its case rate went over 6. This week, the rate was 8.7 percent.)
The change had immediate implications for visitors from four states.
“Following this, Massachusetts updated today its state travel list, moving California, Hawaii, New Jersey and Washington state from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category. This is effective at 12:01 am on 10/17," the statement said. "Travelers arriving from these states will no longer need to fill out the MA Travel Form and follow quarantine rules under the travel order.”
The full list of low-risk states on the Massachusetts website Friday: California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Vermont and Washington.
Visitors to Massachusetts from any other state must either quarantine for 14 days once they arrive or produce a negative coronavirus test that had been administered up to 72 hours prior to getting here. They must also fill out an official Massachusetts Travel Form.“All individuals arriving in Massachusetts by any means or mode, including Massachusetts residents who have left the state for anything more than transitory travel, are covered by the Massachusetts travel rule,” the state says on its website. “Accordingly, even travelers not required to complete the form should act in compliance with the rule.”
There are a number of exceptions to the rule, including commuters coming into Massachusetts for work or school, patients seeking or receiving medical treatment, military personnel traveling to the state for official duty, and workers providing critical infrastructure services, according to mass.gov.
Dasia Moore of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mass-loosens-coronavirus-pandemic-travel-restrictions-on-visitors-from-4-states/ar-BB1a6QVD
Massachusetts officials on Friday moved California, Hawaii, New Jersey, and Washington from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category for COVID-19 transmission, meaning visitors to Massachusetts from those four states will have an easier time when they get here.
The Massachusetts Department of Public Health announced the change in a statement and said the state was also changing the way it assesses the risk level posed by people arriving from different states.
The Department of Public Health’s metric for determining a state’s risk level for purposes of interstate travel policy will consider two weeks of data before moving a state from lower-risk to higher-risk, the statement said.
The metric will consider one week of data before moving states in the other direction, into the lower-risk category, the statement said.
The state also said it would be raising the threshold of cases per 100,000 that would designate a state as higher-risk, from 6 cases per 100,000 to 10 cases per 100,000. The statement said officials were “bringing Massachusetts' standard more in line with other states.” (Massachusetts itself had been failing to meet its own standard since late September, when its case rate went over 6. This week, the rate was 8.7 percent.)
The change had immediate implications for visitors from four states.
“Following this, Massachusetts updated today its state travel list, moving California, Hawaii, New Jersey and Washington state from the higher-risk category to the lower-risk category. This is effective at 12:01 am on 10/17," the statement said. "Travelers arriving from these states will no longer need to fill out the MA Travel Form and follow quarantine rules under the travel order.”
The full list of low-risk states on the Massachusetts website Friday: California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Vermont and Washington.
Visitors to Massachusetts from any other state must either quarantine for 14 days once they arrive or produce a negative coronavirus test that had been administered up to 72 hours prior to getting here. They must also fill out an official Massachusetts Travel Form.“All individuals arriving in Massachusetts by any means or mode, including Massachusetts residents who have left the state for anything more than transitory travel, are covered by the Massachusetts travel rule,” the state says on its website. “Accordingly, even travelers not required to complete the form should act in compliance with the rule.”
There are a number of exceptions to the rule, including commuters coming into Massachusetts for work or school, patients seeking or receiving medical treatment, military personnel traveling to the state for official duty, and workers providing critical infrastructure services, according to mass.gov.
Dasia Moore of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
Also it takes two weeks of data to move a state from the good list to the bad list (up from 1 week, making it harder for the good states to come off that list, wile keeping the original 7 days of data for the other way - ie moving from the bad list to the good list, making it easier to get on the good list than it is to than go to the bad list.
Finally these new standards actually added more states to the good list - again saying to me this is getting “less harsh”.
honest question - what am I missing from this article that leads you to believe things are getting more harsh? And you mentioned that you posted this elsewhere- I think I found it in the Delta version of this thread - and there you posted it as good news based on your quote “The war aint over but its a glimmer”.
I agree with your statement btw. I’m just confused on what you are seeing as being bad about this change.
My interpretation of this article is:
Standards for the low risk state category now allow for more cases than previous, wile making it harder for these low risk states to move into the high risk category. This change increased the the number of low risk states/districts from 6 to 10. So I only see good news (albeit very small) for TSA numbers, to get back to the main topic.
Last edited by Soxfan1; 10-16-2020 at 10:00 PM.
#1037
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 303
to my knowledge the two NE states that have been allowing a test out, still are (MA and CT). And the two that have not yet allowed it (NY and NJ), still are not.
Did something above change or are you referring to another state or states in the NE?
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