Lockdown Part 2
#351
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Don't put words in my mouth. How has Portland been looking since the election?
#352
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No, presumably they just angled for reform via the legal system instead of burning down businesses in their own neighborhoods(and injuring and murdering police and other first responders) that have been oppressed by the same system they themselves have been.
What you said is not relevant anyway. I asked where the right wing riots have been.
What you said is not relevant anyway. I asked where the right wing riots have been.
Does the American Revolution ring a bell?
Does the Civil War ring a bell?
Our history is replete with examples of the fact that meaningful change of a bad/ broken system only came about after violent protests, or armed conflict.
I MYSELF AM NOT FOR VIOLENT PROTESTS. I don't condone it, BUT I UNDERSTAND. Sometimes after years of oppression, or being ignored, or being told to be patient, and nothing changes, or the more they change, the more they stay the same, violent protest becomes the pressure relief valve.
By the way, which is more sinister, people rioting, breaking a few windows, injuring a few policemen, and then dispersing after a few days, OR, militia group members, or white supremacists plotting to kidnap and murder State governors, and blow up a Federal buildings and other targets?
Let's not kid ourselves; outside of the damage, the REAL reason why some of you have a problem with the rioters is because you don't care that racial injustice and inequality is an oppressive burden, that some in our country have had to be dealing with, and they are tired of it. You do not see them as being deserving of being treated with the same respect, and having the same privilege as you do. That is the reason why some look down at the rioters with scorn, because there exists prejudice and no empathy for the plight of those "people".
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#353
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Hahahahahahaha
Oh yeah, the right is working real hard on some police union busting legislation right now and Trump has a detailed plan prepared in a speech that'll ensure the protestors know that the government isn't just waiting for the problem to disappear.
Show me a source that displays widespread legal movement by the right.
And let's just glass over the Boogaloo Bois because they completely undermine your narrative.
Like I said, the right isn't protesting the murder and they aren't doing anything about it. Except showing up armed as counter protestors, because that'll likely end well, and they care about that. We're lucky we've just had one Rittenhouse adventure so far.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...il-war/616473/
Oh yeah, the right is working real hard on some police union busting legislation right now and Trump has a detailed plan prepared in a speech that'll ensure the protestors know that the government isn't just waiting for the problem to disappear.
Show me a source that displays widespread legal movement by the right.
And let's just glass over the Boogaloo Bois because they completely undermine your narrative.
Like I said, the right isn't protesting the murder and they aren't doing anything about it. Except showing up armed as counter protestors, because that'll likely end well, and they care about that. We're lucky we've just had one Rittenhouse adventure so far.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...il-war/616473/
Which is worse? Doing nothing or burning cities to the ground?
#354
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So, the next time the right cares about something enough to protest it, what leg is there to stand on? Hypothetically if we have a Dem controlled POTUS and Senate that wants to make all firearms except single shot rifles illegal, and 9% of the country protests nationwide, why should the Dems care? Just ignore it, until it goes away and if they get violent, it justifies a disproportionate response. That's what the GOP did with Floyd.
I'm very unhappy about the kack if poluce accountability that was brought to the surface, but I'm more concerned that if 9% of the country protesting can't actually achieve anything, then we, the people, have lost a lot of power.
As a side note, I love my guns but I can recognize when either side is taking my freedoms.
#355
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Does the Boston Tea Party ring a bell?
Does the American Revolution ring a bell?
Does the Civil War ring a bell?
Our history is replete with examples of the fact that meaningful change of a bad/ broken system only came about after violent protests, or armed conflict.
I MYSELF AM NOT FOR VIOLENT PROTESTS. I don't condone it, BUT I UNDERSTAND. Sometimes after years of oppression, or being ignored, or being told to be patient, and nothing changes, or the more they change, the more they stay the same, violent protest becomes the pressure relief valve.
By the way, which is more sinister, people rioting, breaking a few windows, injuring a few policemen, and then dispersing after a few days, OR, militia group members, or white supremacists plotting to kidnap and murder State governors, and blow up a Federal buildings and other targets?
Does the American Revolution ring a bell?
Does the Civil War ring a bell?
Our history is replete with examples of the fact that meaningful change of a bad/ broken system only came about after violent protests, or armed conflict.
I MYSELF AM NOT FOR VIOLENT PROTESTS. I don't condone it, BUT I UNDERSTAND. Sometimes after years of oppression, or being ignored, or being told to be patient, and nothing changes, or the more they change, the more they stay the same, violent protest becomes the pressure relief valve.
By the way, which is more sinister, people rioting, breaking a few windows, injuring a few policemen, and then dispersing after a few days, OR, militia group members, or white supremacists plotting to kidnap and murder State governors, and blow up a Federal buildings and other targets?
The most reasonable people I have talked with are in the middle and can see both sides. You 3 do not belong to that group.
#356
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They showed up to state capitals with guns over masks, so they're not above protesting, but they don't care about police accountability.
#357
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Whatever Tucker. Sorry your arguments don't hold water outside your echo chamber.
#358
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The (far) right don't riot, but they do conspire in secret and have engaged in violence against the state, and they do so not because they are being oppressed, but simply from a position of hatred.
That is the distinction.
#360
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The right wing does not represent a constituent that is being oppressed solely based on something they can't change... their race, so they have nothing to riot about.
They don't protest but they engage in violence, and they do so from a position of hatred.
That is the distinction.
They don't protest but they engage in violence, and they do so from a position of hatred.
That is the distinction.
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