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#581
This article explains how VAERS raw data is being mis-represented by ant-vaxxers...
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-covid-vaccine
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-covid-vaccine
#582
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,024
Here is an interesting article, that has some nuggets of interesting information about Covid-19 Vaccines. It's very technical but there are some points that would be interesting to most people.
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23
That rag, masquerading as a scientific journal, is anything but. It's not technical at all, but pseudo technical, and attempts to appear something it's not.
What is it is a poor purveyor of conspiracy theory, and it doesn't take much effort to determine that with minimal research and a little reading of the site itself. It was created last year to undermine vaccination efforts, and calls upon a very popular conspiracy theory regarding the use of tetanus vaccine to sterilize women (a false claim). A darling of the conspiracy world, though.
Essentially, it's a fish hook for the uninformed and those who lack the intelligence to actually read the material, or even go to the "about" page and view the submission terms. One would need to be nearly blind to fail to see it for what it is.
#583
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Joined APC: May 2017
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Posts: 824
Here is an interesting article, that has some nuggets of interesting information about Covid-19 Vaccines. It's very technical but there are some points that would be interesting to most people.
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23
#585
This article explains how VAERS raw data is being mis-represented by ant-vaxxers...
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-covid-vaccine
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-covid-vaccine
People having issues that are coincidental or not related to the vaccine.
Sounds a lot like the people who died from heart attacks, car wrecks, aneurysms, old age, cancer, etc……but really died from covid!!
#586
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,024
The article doesn't say that at all.
It correctly states that the data are misrepresented.
If someone has terminal cancer but is shot by a mugger, the cancer is irrelevant. The person has been murdered and died of a gunshot wound.
If someone has terminal cancer, but dies of a respiratory complication due to Covid, the cancer isn't what killed them. Covid did.
Dismissal and lies are the order of the day, which seems to be the moment conspiracy theorists have been been awaiting: their moment in the sun. The six hundred thousand deaths, dismissed as "flu" or "car wrecks" makes for great press if you're a right wing extremist or conspiracy theorist, but doesn't alter the fact that they're corona deaths, and the problem is real.
Likewise, the vaccine dismissal is in the same mindless vein as climate change denial. The fact that rednecks spout that garbage, doesn't make it true. Nor scientific. Neither do pseudo-science journals like the one just posted, which are anything but.
All the idiotic 5G theories and bill-gates-is-controlling-us-through-vaccine stupidity doesn't trump science. It's just mental masturbation for weak minds.
It correctly states that the data are misrepresented.
If someone has terminal cancer but is shot by a mugger, the cancer is irrelevant. The person has been murdered and died of a gunshot wound.
If someone has terminal cancer, but dies of a respiratory complication due to Covid, the cancer isn't what killed them. Covid did.
Dismissal and lies are the order of the day, which seems to be the moment conspiracy theorists have been been awaiting: their moment in the sun. The six hundred thousand deaths, dismissed as "flu" or "car wrecks" makes for great press if you're a right wing extremist or conspiracy theorist, but doesn't alter the fact that they're corona deaths, and the problem is real.
Likewise, the vaccine dismissal is in the same mindless vein as climate change denial. The fact that rednecks spout that garbage, doesn't make it true. Nor scientific. Neither do pseudo-science journals like the one just posted, which are anything but.
All the idiotic 5G theories and bill-gates-is-controlling-us-through-vaccine stupidity doesn't trump science. It's just mental masturbation for weak minds.
#587
The article doesn't say that at all.
It correctly states that the data are misrepresented.
If someone has terminal cancer but is shot by a mugger, the cancer is irrelevant. The person has been murdered and died of a gunshot wound.
If someone has terminal cancer, but dies of a respiratory complication due to Covid, the cancer isn't what killed them. Covid did.
Dismissal and lies are the order of the day, which seems to be the moment conspiracy theorists have been been awaiting: their moment in the sun. The six hundred thousand deaths, dismissed as "flu" or "car wrecks" makes for great press if you're a right wing extremist or conspiracy theorist, but doesn't alter the fact that they're corona deaths, and the problem is real.
Likewise, the vaccine dismissal is in the same mindless vein as climate change denial. The fact that rednecks spout that garbage, doesn't make it true. Nor scientific. Neither do pseudo-science journals like the one just posted, which are anything but.
All the idiotic 5G theories and bill-gates-is-controlling-us-through-vaccine stupidity doesn't trump science. It's just mental masturbation for weak minds.
It correctly states that the data are misrepresented.
If someone has terminal cancer but is shot by a mugger, the cancer is irrelevant. The person has been murdered and died of a gunshot wound.
If someone has terminal cancer, but dies of a respiratory complication due to Covid, the cancer isn't what killed them. Covid did.
Dismissal and lies are the order of the day, which seems to be the moment conspiracy theorists have been been awaiting: their moment in the sun. The six hundred thousand deaths, dismissed as "flu" or "car wrecks" makes for great press if you're a right wing extremist or conspiracy theorist, but doesn't alter the fact that they're corona deaths, and the problem is real.
Likewise, the vaccine dismissal is in the same mindless vein as climate change denial. The fact that rednecks spout that garbage, doesn't make it true. Nor scientific. Neither do pseudo-science journals like the one just posted, which are anything but.
All the idiotic 5G theories and bill-gates-is-controlling-us-through-vaccine stupidity doesn't trump science. It's just mental masturbation for weak minds.
When numbers (covid deaths or vaccines reactions) are incorrect, they are skewed, misrepresented or falsified.
What you fail to see that people died of cancer, died from blunt force trauma, died from an aneurysms but were coded as covid.
There were also people who had cancer that died because of covid.
Because one doesn’t want the vaccine doesn’t lump them into a bunch of masterbating rednecks who deny your climatology and Scientology.
#588
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,024
Yes, I do. I speak for myself. Imagine that.
Thank you, captain obvious. Show me the numbers and prove they are falsified.
Show me.
Are you suggesting I said such a thing? If so, then you lie.
Reading comprehension is key. Give it a shot.
Speak for yourself, if able. Not me.
Reading comprehension is key. Give it a shot.
Speak for yourself, if able. Not me.
#589
Yes, I do. I speak for myself. Imagine that.
Thank you, captain obvious. Show me the numbers and prove they are falsified.
Show me.
Are you suggesting I said such a thing? If so, then you lie.
Reading comprehension is key. Give it a shot.
Speak for yourself, if able. Not me.
Thank you, captain obvious. Show me the numbers and prove they are falsified.
Show me.
Are you suggesting I said such a thing? If so, then you lie.
Reading comprehension is key. Give it a shot.
Speak for yourself, if able. Not me.
#590
WSJ printed an opinion piece today about possible vaccine safety concerns being marginalized by mainstream science and media.
No smoking guns and it circles back around to the VAERS data and nursing home events which are pretty weak sauce for correlation vs. causation, but given the source it might be worth a read.
Link won't work due to WSJ paywall, but these are the authors, who appear to be legit professionals...
By Joseph A. Ladapo and Harvey A. Risch
No smoking guns and it circles back around to the VAERS data and nursing home events which are pretty weak sauce for correlation vs. causation, but given the source it might be worth a read.
Link won't work due to WSJ paywall, but these are the authors, who appear to be legit professionals...
By Joseph A. Ladapo and Harvey A. Risch
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