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Old 09-20-2021, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence View Post
I’ve posted this a dozen times because you armchair epidemiologists just can’t seem to get it through your thick skulls, but here is what the VAERS website says about itself, directly contradicting your outrageous claims.
shhh…..they think they have uncovered a deep state conspiracy to install microchips in all of us so they have control over our minds. Just let them run with it….
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Old 09-20-2021, 04:47 PM
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Wait so VAERS isn't useful because it doesn't determine if they died from the vaccine, but if you die within 60 days of having Rona it's definitely because of covid? Got it
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No, they die from covid if the doctor writes that on the death certificate.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/20/10389...ccination-rate
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Old 09-20-2021, 05:58 PM
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You’re becoming the new king of low-quality misinformation posts. Bravo!

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Wait so VAERS isn't useful because it doesn't determine if they died from the vaccine
No. Learn to read. VAERS - by its own admission - does not indicate or imply a causal relationship between a vaccine and any reported event, including death. You said that it did. What you said in your OP was completely and utterly false according to the primary source that you referenced.

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but if you die within 60 days of having Rona it's definitely because of covid? Got it
Nobody said that except you. Nice straw man, though!
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Old 09-20-2021, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH View Post
Only problem with your argument is ivermectin doesn’t work on covid.
Please provide one example please. The only examples you have hide data or give up after only 3 days of testing young and healthy patients. You’re saying millions of people all got lucky in the past year? Ok, conspiracy theorist.

Also, you seem to be more against it than the FDA, CDC, and NIH. Maybe you could fill them in on your expert knowledge

The FDA says not to take Ivermectin for animals. This should be common sense. For humans it says it’s “unclear” and that trials are ongoing. You specifically say not to use it.

The CDC also says it’s “unclear”. They say the only side effects occur during misuse or overdose. Pretty sure that’s the case with every drug that’s ever existed since the beginning of time. You specifically advise against it.

The NIH says they can not recommend for it, but they also can’t recommend against it… for Covid. You seem to have more evidence than the NIH. You should write them and tell them to advise against it.
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Old 09-20-2021, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever View Post
not all with success, and it hasn’t been…..ahh, F this. Go take your anti parasitic drug for a virus. Hopefully you are senior to me.
Please provide one example where someone using Ivermectin as directed got something worse than a headache in the last 40 years either for covid or for something else.

Also, in 2017 nature.com and the journal of antibiotics say it’s a potent inhibitor of RNA viruses which is exactly the type of virus Covid is. https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

If you’re waiting to move up a number you’re gonna be waiting awhile. You have a better chance of getting struck by a meteor tomorrow than I do of dying from Ivermectin. So don’t hold your breath.
You’ll be taking Pfizer’s version of the horse dewormer eventually so I wouldn’t be bashing it too much.
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Pfizer isn’t making a version of ivermectin. It’s making a protease inhibiting antiviral. Similar to boceprevir, simeprivir, etc.
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Old 09-20-2021, 07:21 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-dies-covid-19

I have no idea if he was taking it as directed or not. Nor do I care or have a shred of sympathy for him. Reality is that had he been vaccinated he would still be alive.
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence View Post
You’re becoming the new king of low-quality misinformation posts. Bravo!



No. Learn to read. VAERS - by its own admission - does not indicate or imply a causal relationship between a vaccine and any reported event, including death. You said that it did. What you said in your OP was completely and utterly false according to the primary source that you referenced.



Nobody said that except you. Nice straw man, though!
Sure about that? You really have no idea how the states have been reporting deaths do you?

The standard for a "covid death" is any death within 60 days of a positive test.

https://www. bit chute.com/video/nX96XsHiHo9w/


Here is the Illinois director of public health saying exactly that. Yes, even a car crash.

I wonder why this video isn't found anyhwere on google or youtube?
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Old 09-21-2021, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever View Post
I wonder if there are any long term health issues using ivermectin in covid patients. Has that been studied?
Surprisingly yes... straight off the NIH website right below Remdesivir

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...bles/table-2e/
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