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Old 09-21-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
Surprisingly yes... straight off the NIH website right below Remdesivir

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...bles/table-2e/
hmmm, I wonder how they have studied it for long term effects when covid has only been around for a couple of years?
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:18 AM
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hmmm, I wonder how they have studied it for long term effects when covid has only been around for a couple of years?
They haven’t studied the long term effects of the three vaccines so that’s on par with the status quo
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:19 AM
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As much as I love the dialogue.. it’s time to move on from debating ivermectin. The NIH has it listed as a treatment on their website. Even has a link to the clinical trails. Hopefully this will end the back and forth over the subject

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...bles/table-2e/
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Old 09-21-2021, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
They haven’t studied the long term effects of the three vaccines so that’s on par with the status quo
exactly, yet the vaccines work, ivermectin doesn’t. Why are people scared of the vaccine, but not ivermectin? It boggles the mind.
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever View Post
exactly, yet the vaccines work, ivermectin doesn’t. Why are people scared of the vaccine, but not ivermectin? It boggles the mind.
Maybe because ivermectin has been in use for 40 years all over the world and the fact that it has won the Nobel Prize in 2005 and in 2015 for various safe and effective medical uses.

The jabs are new. This is the first time mRNA technology has been administered in mass. Robert Malone the inventor said it should not be used in humans. Also the goal post are always moving. There is no long term data. I guess that adds to the hesitancy
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever View Post
exactly, yet the vaccines work, ivermectin doesn’t. Why are people scared of the vaccine, but not ivermectin? It boggles the mind.
Even better, all the big money anti-vaxxers go straight for the monoclonal antibodies when $hit gets real in the gasping for air department. Because you know those have a truly long safety track record.

My fave irony is all 50 governors are vaccinated and just about all the big talking heads against the vaccine are as well… or in a “doth protest too much” sort of way, they just won’t say 🤔
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Old 09-21-2021, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
As much as I love the dialogue.. it’s time to move on from debating ivermectin. The NIH has it listed as a treatment on their website. Even has a link to the clinical trails. Hopefully this will end the back and forth over the subject

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...bles/table-2e/
curious, did you actually read the website and some of the trial information, or did you see “ivermectin” and assume it’s been approved? Because the header of the website you supplied reads characteristics of antiviral agents that are approved or under evaluation for covid treatment. I didn’t take the time to look at all the completed trials, but the highest number of people in the studies that I saw was 400. I’m not a doctor so can’t really decipher the results, but with such a small sample size, I can tell you that the studies are next to meaningless.

look, it would be great if ivermectin worked, but it sure doesn’t seem like it does, there doesn’t seem to be any large, reputable clinical trial that has established its efficacy.

as to your comment about robert Malone, this is an interesting article about him:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...keptic/619734/
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever View Post
curious, did you actually read the website and some of the trial information, or did you see “ivermectin” and assume it’s been approved? Because the header of the website you supplied reads characteristics of antiviral agents that are approved or under evaluation for covid treatment. I didn’t take the time to look at all the completed trials, but the highest number of people in the studies that I saw was 400. I’m not a doctor so can’t really decipher the results, but with such a small sample size, I can tell you that the studies are next to meaningless.

look, it would be great if ivermectin worked, but it sure doesn’t seem like it does, there doesn’t seem to be any large, reputable clinical trial that has established its efficacy.

as to your comment about robert Malone, this is an interesting article about him:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/...keptic/619734/
The funny thing about that figure is that if you look at the whole document, all of the conclusions from the small sample trials were that it did not affect the outcome more than a placebo.
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:29 AM
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I guess the nearly 2 billion people currently using ivermectin as standard of care for covid are just idiot conspiracy theorists
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Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
Maybe because ivermectin has been in use for 40 years all over the world and the fact that it has won the Nobel Prize in 2005 and in 2015 for various safe and effective medical uses.

The jabs are new. This is the first time mRNA technology has been administered in mass. Robert Malone the inventor said it should not be used in humans. Also the goal post are always moving. There is no long term data. I guess that adds to the hesitancy
this is hilarious
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