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Bestglide 10-06-2021 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3305124)
If everything is a conspiracy you have much bigger issue to address than your inability to look critically at a source of information. The CDC recommends vaccination even for those that have recovered from covid. The majority of research (to the point that I would have to actively want to seek out a study with an opposing view) points to a more robust protection with the vaccine compared to antibodies from a previous infection. Pfizer and any pharma company makes everyone sign NDAs from broom pushers to their pilots. The hospitals are now in on the conspiracy to report more unvaccinated cases... if everything is a conspiracy angled to make your easily refuted "real thinker" ideas look silly couldn't it just be possible your ideas are poorly thought out? You don't see that your sources aren't reputable or from unpublished studies?

or?
do you see that your sources are biased and tainted. Dr dooms wife work for the NIH bio ethics who approve drugs for the FDA….fact!
incesttral to say the least, but you keep on believing what’s being spoon fed to you by the media every day.
I for one will look at all the sources. As well as other methods of treatments. It amazes me that all the libs here jump on free thinkers who “question” our leadership
and their policies.
hive minds think alike. We are the borg you will be assimilated. Take your vaccine and don’t ask any questions.

hummingbear 10-06-2021 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3305059)
People convert. Lew Alcindor. Cassius Clay. Heck, just in 18 months, half the country has converted from believing in freedom to worshipping Lord Fauci despite him flip flopping on virtually every topic including his latest stance on whether we’re allowed to have Christmas this year. If you celebrate family time… last week you were a domestic terrorist… this week it’s debatable as long as youre vaccinated.

Yeah, that’s good. Tell them that.

Thedude86 10-06-2021 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3305124)
If everything is a conspiracy you have much bigger issue to address than your inability to look critically at a source of information. The CDC recommends vaccination even for those that have recovered from covid. The majority of research (to the point that I would have to actively want to seek out a study with an opposing view) points to a more robust protection with the vaccine compared to antibodies from a previous infection. Pfizer and any pharma company makes everyone sign NDAs from broom pushers to their pilots. The hospitals are now in on the conspiracy to report more unvaccinated cases... if everything is a conspiracy angled to make your easily refuted "real thinker" ideas look silly couldn't it just be possible your ideas are poorly thought out? You don't see that your sources aren't reputable or from unpublished studies?

So “The Atlantic” is now not a reliable source? Statements made directly from Pfizer scientists aren’t reliable sources? Dr. Fauci and CNN arent reliable sources?

Youre the one telling us to trust Dr. Fauci and the drug companies. When they themselves are the ones making such statements, you then call it a conspiracy. You make absolutely zero sense. Maybe CNN should have you on everytime they interview Dr. Fauci so you can tell the public which statements of his are conspiracies and which ones are legit.

rickair7777 10-06-2021 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by JayAitch (Post 3304898)
What does one person having a medical exemption have to do with religious exemptions? These are unrelated. Besides which, there is no consistent theological justification against the vaccine.

Yes. Medical exemptions are a real thing, for real quantifiable reasons.

Religious exemptions are kind of fuzzy, are not an absolute right and can be overridden by circumstance... ie it can be determined that you have a sincere religious issue with vaccination (or whatever else you don't like) but if you're an ER trauma surgeon/nurse you might have to get the vaccine anyway. Just like the flu shot, since both flu and covid are dangerous to many hospital patients and pretty much all ICU patients.

Another example... sabbath days. Don't know of any (US) airlines which guarantee sabbath days off, which would obviously be in gross violation of seniority. Never heard of it in any other 24/7 seniority-based shift work industry either. So union seniority pretty clear trumps sincere religious beliefs (as it should).

iahflyr 10-06-2021 08:23 AM

Have the 20ish pilots who refused to get vaccinated been fired yet?

Gooselives 10-06-2021 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by iahflyr (Post 3305204)
Have the 20ish pilots who refused to get vaccinated been fired yet?

nope they kicked and screamed like a baby and then finally got it. I have small kids more mature than these pilots

DashTrash 10-06-2021 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by thor55 (Post 3304812)
Natural immunity is far better than the "vaccines" - follow the science ...... NO VACCINE MANDATES - https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horow...covid-vaccines


Fantastic!!! Then let’s infect the entire pilot group with COVID-19, and see how that works out???

ThumbsUp 10-06-2021 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3305215)
nope they kicked and screamed like a baby and then finally got it. I have small kids more mature than these pilots


Did they? By my understanding that number is less than 20 now, but there are still some that are on paid leave until the 15th pending the judge's ruling.

Aquaticus 10-06-2021 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Thedude86 (Post 3305162)
So “The Atlantic” is now not a reliable source? Statements made directly from Pfizer scientists aren’t reliable sources? Dr. Fauci and CNN arent reliable sources?

Youre the one telling us to trust Dr. Fauci and the drug companies. When they themselves are the ones making such statements, you then call it a conspiracy. You make absolutely zero sense. Maybe CNN should have you on everytime they interview Dr. Fauci so you can tell the public which statements of his are conspiracies and which ones are legit.

So to sum up your opinion the vaccine is a conspiracy, the testing data showing it works is a conspiracy covering multiple hospitals, the entire medical community disregarding anti-parasitic medications for a viral infection is a conspiracy, but the one person who isn't a complete conspiracy hack that you will defend is the guy who works at pfizer on a candid camera with food on his face? The leaps of logic needed to get to this point is absolutely frightening.

I don't listen to any one source and I haven't mentioned Fauci or politics once. You keep wanting this to be a political thing and it isn't. Your views are in the minority for a reason among all political parties. The majority of published studies refute everything you have said about horse medicine, the vaccine, and your pure fantastical conspiracy theories. If the hospital numbers showing 96% of new cases are from the unvaccinated wouldn't the deaths from covid be skewed as well? 2 vaccinated deaths out of 122 total covid deaths in that same week in NJ. Or are we just ignoring it because it doesn't fit your agenda?

fcoolaiddrinker 10-06-2021 01:12 PM

August 30-September 28. San Diego county. 378 covid hospitalizations. 370 not fully vaxed. 8 fully vaxed.


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