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ItnStln 09-29-2021 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3301903)
They already said that the reasonable accommodation for religious purposes was unpaid leave.

Which is not an unreasonable religious accommodation

rickair7777 09-29-2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3301903)
They already said that the reasonable accommodation for religious purposes was unpaid leave.

That actually is reasonable. You can hang out and keep your seniority until this stuff blows over to the point that they can relax vaccination mandates. Maybe make a few bucks as a telcommuting reservation agent in the meantime.

DashTrash 09-29-2021 03:06 PM

None of the other jobs pay anywhere close to our pay scales. Adult decisions, have adult consequences…

MIddle3rd 09-29-2021 03:33 PM

True. I now know many captains that feel like they were forced into getting a vaccine to prevent a disease they already had and it's clearly not working to prevent. 6.2 billion doses given worldwide. 7.5 billion people. Here we are still with travel restrictions, still testing left and right, still worried about spiking etc, people still wearing stupid ass masks etc. Nowhere close to normal. Guess how much those captains will be working to fix anything from now on?.....I for one don't give a damn about the company I work for anymore. I'll work here long enough to get as much money from it as possible. I'll go out of my way to fix nothing that's not my responsibility. These captains will fly as slow or as fast as they like. And no, they won't quit. They'll go home happy knowing they made 40k this month and didn't lift a finger to fix any issues for this rotten ass woke political company. BTW, I'm not miserable at work. I enjoy just about all the people I work with and the flying. Our management and leadership have disrespected us.. CORE4 doesn't involve forcing your people to do things medically they don't need nor want. The other airlines have not gone down this path. I guess we'll see, but I don't think they will.

Hedley 09-29-2021 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by MIddle3rd (Post 3301921)
True. I now know many captains that feel like they were forced into getting a vaccine to prevent a disease they already had and it's clearly not working to prevent. 6.2 billion doses given worldwide. 7.5 billion people. Here we are still with travel restrictions, still testing left and right, still worried about spiking etc, people still wearing stupid ass masks etc. Nowhere close to normal. Guess how much those captains will be working to fix anything from now on?.....I for one don't give a damn about the company I work for anymore. I'll work here long enough to get as much money from it as possible. I'll go out of my way to fix nothing that's not my responsibility. These captains will fly as slow or as fast as they like. And no, they won't quit. They'll go home happy knowing they made 40k this month and didn't lift a finger to fix any issues for this rotten ass woke political company. BTW, I'm not miserable at work. I enjoy just about all the people I work with and the flying. Our management and leadership have disrespected us.. CORE4 doesn't involve forcing your people to do things medically they don't need nor want. The other airlines have not gone down this path. I guess we'll see, but I don't think they will.

Welcome to the world of CORE2. It’s not such a bad place. Just realize that we’re nothing but contract labor, comply with SOP’s, pull as much money out of this place as you can, enjoy your time off, then retire comfortably and don’t look back. Not a bad gig.

flightmedic01 09-29-2021 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by MIddle3rd (Post 3301921)
True. I now know many captains that feel like they were forced into getting a vaccine to prevent a disease they already had and it's clearly not working to prevent. 6.2 billion doses given worldwide. 7.5 billion people. Here we are still with travel restrictions, still testing left and right, still worried about spiking etc, people still wearing stupid ass masks etc. Nowhere close to normal. Guess how much those captains will be working to fix anything from now on?.....I for one don't give a damn about the company I work for anymore. I'll work here long enough to get as much money from it as possible. I'll go out of my way to fix nothing that's not my responsibility. These captains will fly as slow or as fast as they like. And no, they won't quit. They'll go home happy knowing they made 40k this month and didn't lift a finger to fix any issues for this rotten ass woke political company. BTW, I'm not miserable at work. I enjoy just about all the people I work with and the flying. Our management and leadership have disrespected us.. CORE4 doesn't involve forcing your people to do things medically they don't need nor want. The other airlines have not gone down this path. I guess we'll see, but I don't think they will.

^^^^^My sentiments exactly^^^^^
I will not do anything extra, will never extend my duty day or go the extra mile. We are a line item on a spreadsheet.

MIddle3rd 09-29-2021 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3301940)
Welcome to the world of CORE2. It’s not such a bad place. Just realize that we’re nothing but contract labor, comply with SOP’s, pull as much money out of this place as you can, enjoy your time off, then retire comfortably and don’t look back. Not a bad gig.

ALOT of pilots I talk to feel the same way. Not going to be good for the company. How's our contract going?

DashTrash 09-29-2021 04:37 PM

Haven’t you all learned anything from the pandemic??? Our jobs are perishable!!! If you don’t take care of our customers, the rest is academic. Yes, I believe that everyone should be vaccinated, but I also staunchly support an individual’s right to choose. But like anything in life, choices have consequences.

I believe that United is requiring vaccinations so that we can beat our competitors to the punch. Also, if you are on a global fleet, the decision has largely been taken out of the control of United.

scns77 09-29-2021 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by MIddle3rd (Post 3301948)
ALOT of pilots I talk to feel the same way. Not going to be good for the company. How's our contract going?

my last LOE the evaluator spent 69% of the brief time spewing core4 nonsense….i wanted to puke

Mitch Rapp 09-29-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by middle3rd (Post 3301921)
true. I now know many captains that feel like they were forced into getting a vaccine to prevent a disease they already had and it's clearly not working to prevent. 6.2 billion doses given worldwide. 7.5 billion people. Here we are still with travel restrictions, still testing left and right, still worried about spiking etc, people still wearing stupid ass masks etc. Nowhere close to normal. Guess how much those captains will be working to fix anything from now on?.....i for one don't give a damn about the company i work for anymore. I'll work here long enough to get as much money from it as possible. I'll go out of my way to fix nothing that's not my responsibility. These captains will fly as slow or as fast as they like. And no, they won't quit. They'll go home happy knowing they made 40k this month and didn't lift a finger to fix any issues for this rotten ass woke political company. Btw, i'm not miserable at work. I enjoy just about all the people i work with and the flying. Our management and leadership have disrespected us.. Core4 doesn't involve forcing your people to do things medically they don't need nor want. The other airlines have not gone down this path. I guess we'll see, but i don't think they will.

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