jacinth

Let me guess, you have never done any actual research for yourself.

Same viral load
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-v...-unvaccinated/
No correlation between vax rates and lower covid
https://link.springer.com/content/pd...21-00808-7.pdf
Total hospitalizations through April 2021
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/...e-utilization/
UK data. Right two columns. Most cases are from the fully vaccinated. Lower age demographic is testing requirements for unvaxed school kids.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBljf1tW...jpg&name=large
Singapore 90% vax rate 550 day mask mandate.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBbdvD8W...name=4096x4096
Study on vaxed to vaxed spread
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3897733
Israeli hospital covid spread event vax failure.
https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/13/stud...ted-were-fine/
Mongolia case rate with vax rate
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBRcZhYX...jpg&name=large
Alaska
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBMxZbHX...name=4096x4096
Israel
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FA3nSNkW...jpg&name=small
Wales
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAorn59V...name=4096x4096
Maine
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAogvgnU...name=4096x4096
New Brunswick
Https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBl0m8MX...name=4096x4096
Florida, no new policy interventions, no vaccine passports and no mask mandates.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBqqTFdV...name=4096x4096
Vermont
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAeIZnYV...name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAEbvy8V...name=4096x4096
"No Significant Difference in Viral Load Between Vaccinated and Unvaccinated, Asymptomatic and Symptomatic Groups Infected with SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant"
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....28.21264262v1
6 southern states hospitalizations trend symmetrically regardless of interventions or vax rates.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_sW2X7V...jpg&name=large

hoover

dang you must be on reserve a lot.
Seriously though good work

fasteddie800

Come on, ShyGuy , show us your witty response!

S4User

Will SY offer any exemptions or be like United and essentially not have any permitted?

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Pilotchute

So Jacinth, the first article you linked to stressed that getting vaccinated greatly reduces your risk of becoming seriously ill with CoVID so I don't understand the point.

yellowfever

this guy does a pretty good job explaining the difference

ShyGuy

You posted several links to show you've done research. But the reality is, the meme really is true about the woman sitting on the toilet with her phone and the caption "anti-vax research." What you have shown as "research" above really just consisted of you typing your already-perceived conclusion on covid and vaccinations and typing that into google, and then taking the links that popped up and copy/pasted them here. That is not research.

The only legit link is the first one, the CBS news, and that is for breakthrough cases among the vaccinated (breakthrough cases are rare). For your second link, it's written by S. V. Subramanian and Akhil Kumar. Who are these people, what are their qualifications? You don't know, and you don't care. But even straight from their chart, the population of fully vaccinated have lower overall rates than unvaccinated. Most of those dots fall below the 1000 per 1M rate. Same with the county chart, it's a decreasing trend of cases per million from 40-45% vaccinated all the way to 70% vaccinated or higher. That's all good news.

The third link isn't what you think. It's hospital utilization for hospital services. In areas where hospitals got hammered, they stopped taking elective procedures that could be pushed off to a later time. If a hospital is no longer doing something, it isn't utilizing that service. In this country, you can thank the un-vaxxed for clogging the hospitals up this Summer. The fourth link, vax to vax spread is ENTIRELY about a Vietnam hospital staff of 69 people. Are you serious? How is that relevant on a world population basis? And if you had read the nugget in that article, every single one of them recovered. More good news for the vaccines.

The fifth link of the Israel hospital breakout, even that article says "the calculated rate of infection among all exposed patients and staff was 10.6% (16/151) for staff and 23.7% (23/97) for patients, in a population with a 96.2% vaccination rate (238 vaccinated/248 exposed individuals)." That is still good news. The staff fully recovered. The patients who died were unfortunate cases for sure, but if you look at their age and time since their vaccination, enough time had passed that the efficacy was reduced for older people. This is why in this country, boosters are coming out and approved for the elderly crowd.


The rest of the dozen or so links are Twitter images. To quote Dave Chappelle, I don't give a [...] because Twitter is not a real place.


The anti-vax crowd is too predictable. You can literally put into google "Vaccines making covid worse" and come up with links to "prove" your case, with no scientific thought behind the work you posted. The downfall of social media. You didn't do any research, you just googled and copy/pasted links. And most importantly, you made the false characterization and fake news that vaccines made Covid worse and caused the spread.


And none of you will stand on your principles and quit your job. Every one of you will roll up your sleeves to continue flying your planes. There are a small, select group of people close to retirement at some airlines who may say screw it and just retire. But just watch, there will be no mass quitting of pilots in this country. You will cave.

Violated

Your arrogance on the issue is palpable and I think you are simply wrong. Several in my group are exhausting their options and will take the termination when it comes. One has already left “voluntarily”. These are highly intelligent professionals who simply won’t stand for this heavy handed approach. We will have a very real shortage if no compromise can be reached. Hope that cooler heads prevail as an overnight reduction of even 2-5% of the workforce will be felt in all reaches of our lives.

jacinth

Wow. “The only legit link is the first one, the CBS news”. Lol. I won’t even respond to that, but you just ratted yourself out. Did you bother to look into the second link? It’s a Harvard research based study. You didn’t because “you don’t care”. “At the country-level, there appears to be no discernable relationship between percentage of population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases in the last 7 days. “In fact, the trend line suggests a marginally positive association such that countries with higher percentage of population fully vaccinated have higher COVID-19 cases per 1 million people.” “There also appears to be no significant signaling of COVID-19 cases decreasing with higher percentages of population fully vaccinated."

The 3rd link is exactly what it says total hospitalizations admissions. And no, up to that point they have been below pre pandemic levels. In the state of GA we have seen the same thing. Total hospitalizations have been range bound since May 2020. Doesn’t matter if covid peaks or valleys same amount have been in the hospital. The fourth link was just one example of many similar stories. The 5th link is again one story of many. The outbreak began from a vaccinated person, infected staff even with full PPE (which the data shows is useless) 8 fully vaxed people died. Of the two unvaxed they had a mild infection. They described the vaccines ability to prevent transmission as “useless”.

The rest of the links again your response rats you out. In other words you were too lazy to go in and plot the data sets yourself. Twitter is just where I hold some charts. The data has been verified. To blindly disregard something simply because it was from a Twitter storage is not favorable for you. Go plot the data. It’s publicly available. You will find it’s completely accurate. And I will say, those are just a small handful. It’s same story all over the world. Did you need to see some more examples?

To then throw out anti-vax labels because you can’t handle the truth of the current reality is again not favorable for you. It has nothing to do with a vaccine anyway. As you can see the injected can get infected with a high transmission potential with the same amount of viral load as anyone else. This is significant. If someone has immunity say from a natural infection this wouldn't happen because they actually have immunity unlike….
If your benefit wears away gradually after 4-6 months you don’t have immunity. You have a therapeutic. And while there are benefits of it, they are only personal to you. There is not a public benefit.

Abouttime2fish

https://trialsitenews.com/proof-that...accine-safety/

no,