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Old 12-11-2021, 10:46 AM
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I was a squadron XO that didn't make CDR so I've been the "I drink coffee and know things" LCDR without a real job for a couple years.

But I was also the only guy fully qualified for everything we do deployed on the reserve side.
You know this, but for the edification of others...

The USNR holds RC hardware operators in VERY, VERY high regard... that will very much grease your career skids.

HOWEVER you can't stay there forever, unless on command track. Even then, you can't blow off all the other stuff. You also MUST do PMEs and also whatever your designator career profile has in the way of key milestones (including AQDs) ... those are laid out in the ppt that is shown to every board, and every officer should look at that ppt annually (it's on the BUPERS RC promotion pages). I've actually helped hardware guys earn specific quals "on the side" while assigned to a squadron to ensure promotion and apply assignment.
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Old 12-11-2021, 10:48 AM
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Because at the time I joined, I had already had most of them, they had long track records and weren't political weapons with EUAs.

Then came anthrax.

Thanks to that, I almost died and have a lifetime SI that will likely cut my career short and took a solid decade off my life expectancy.

I was waiver from any further Anthrax shots or boosters. I started having bad reactions to flu shots, bad enough that I was hospitalized.

For the remaining 18 years I was in, I was waived from Flu, Anthrax and any "new" vaccine and it was a non issue.

Out comes the COVID-19 vaccine. My flight surgeon, my cardiologist and my oncologist all said "you do not get this until we have years of data"

Then the myocarditis being the most common adverse side effect came out. My cardiologist went "you never get this vaccine. Period"

Mind you these are all Navy doctors.

When COVID-19 vaccine became "Mandatory" they all wrote letters to my waiver package. Now mind you, any vaccine prior to this one only required one doc to say no, and that was the end of it.

No. Package with three Navy docs and two civilian docs goes up.

Overruled by a non MD Captain.

I told them in no uncertain terms I was not getting the shot contrary to medical advice and I would gladly see them at the Court Martial.

Mind you, the deadline was 3 days before my Mandatory Retirement date. 28 DEC vs 01JAN.

My retirement date was moved to 1 DEC after I rolled into the NOSC Command Suite with lawyers in tow when I was summoned to a "sign this page 13 and you can't write an under duress statement" and brought JAG.

24 years. Zero discipline items on my record ever.

Last day in the Navy had lawyers involved because Covid went political and the military political officers (O6 and above) went with looking good for their bosses over a very real chance the vaccine would kill or disable me due to heart damage from a previous "new but safe" vaccine.
You're a special case, and yes it sounds like BS. Did you get any reserve flag involvement in your situation? Your chain should have done that.
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Old 12-11-2021, 11:49 AM
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You know this, but for the edification of others...

The USNR holds RC hardware operators in VERY, VERY high regard... that will very much grease your career skids.

HOWEVER you can't stay there forever, unless on command track. Even then, you can't blow off all the other stuff. You also MUST do PMEs and also whatever your designator career profile has in the way of key milestones (including AQDs) ... those are laid out in the ppt that is shown to every board, and every officer should look at that ppt annually (it's on the BUPERS RC promotion pages). I've actually helped hardware guys earn specific quals "on the side" while assigned to a squadron to ensure promotion and apply assignment.
In my case, I got hurt on an Afghan deployment, and got sucked into the MRR vortex, which basically sticks you at your current command and screws you out of any ability to do something other than be "Spare O-4 #3"
No ADT, AT has to get run on a waiver to a 2 star I think.

And in the case of command support.. Once it hit the NOSC, support stopped and I basically got the "get your shot, what are you afraid of" speech. I was told at one point that me not getting vaccinated as an officer set a "bad example". I had it out with the NOSC command suite at that point and gave zero ****s anymore. They tried to hardsell me on a pg13 that I couldn't make a statement that I was signing under duress, then threatened Art 15 procedings, to which I said I would decline that and demand CM.

They care about two things. Making checkblocks green and their careers.

There are very few leaders left at the O-6 and above in the non flying Navy Reserve.
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Old 12-11-2021, 12:59 PM
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In my case, I got hurt on an Afghan deployment, and got sucked into the MRR vortex, which basically sticks you at your current command and screws you out of any ability to do something other than be "Spare O-4 #3"
No ADT, AT has to get run on a waiver to a 2 star I think.

And in the case of command support.. Once it hit the NOSC, support stopped and I basically got the "get your shot, what are you afraid of" speech. I was told at one point that me not getting vaccinated as an officer set a "bad example". I had it out with the NOSC command suite at that point and gave zero ****s anymore. They tried to hardsell me on a pg13 that I couldn't make a statement that I was signing under duress, then threatened Art 15 procedings, to which I said I would decline that and demand CM.

They care about two things. Making checkblocks green and their careers.

There are very few leaders left at the O-6 and above in the non flying Navy Reserve.
NOSC is not SELRES, somebody in your SELRES chain (community, if not operational chain) should have taken this to the RC flags... those guys are good about stuff like this. I mean it's not like they can do anything to SELRES flags, they already have civilian jobs (often airline).

NOSC/FTS are just another obstacle in the life of a SELRES... you need to work around them. They're basically a self-licking ice cream cone. Use what service they can provide, but don't let them get in your way. BTDT.
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Old 12-11-2021, 01:25 PM
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I was TACRON so we kind of don't have any SELRES over us. There are SELRES in the ESG/SURFLANT worlds but we never went up/through them for anything.

The Navy didn't (and still doesn't) really know what to do with TACRON, even less so reserve side.
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Executive Officer canned for not getting the jab. "Commander Lucian Kins, the USS Winston S. Churchill's second-in-command, reportedly applied for a religious exemption which was refused by the Navy ..."

Probably more to the story than this short article.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/navy-destroyer-2-officer-fired-over-refusal-get-covid-19-vax-or-tested
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Executive Officer canned for not getting the jab. "Commander Lucian Kins, the USS Winston S. Churchill's second-in-command, reportedly applied for a religious exemption which was refused by the Navy ..."

Probably more to the story than this short article.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-vax-or-tested
Refused testing as well??? Something fishy here. Maybe another guy going out in a blaze of political glory.
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Old 12-11-2021, 03:49 PM
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Lo and behold, right after this post, this shows up in the mail.



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Congratulations on the retirement. Wish it was under better times for you, but regardless, thank you for your service. I've still got 6 yrs to get to that glorious day.
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If I was still in today, I’d only be a couple of years shy of 20 right now. I can’t begin to imagine how I would have reacted to all of this nonsense while still bound by the UCMJ. Turns out getting RIFed all those years ago was a blessing.
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Lo and behold, right after this post, this shows up in the mail.



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congrats on the retirement and the upgrade. Hope the next few years can be less stressful than the last 2

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