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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:19 PM
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I don't get all of these 330B predictions either. There are NO vacancies. The plug is currently 12263 with only 9 pilots at or above 12k on the 330. Entry in the category is possible from an MD or VD of someone senior to 12263. If there are 9 MD/VD into DTW 330, the cutoff is below 12k. If less than 9 take the MD/VD into DTW 330B, it is possible one of the 130 NYC M88 B that are 12k+ could displace into DTW 330 B.

It is also possible someone could AE into a contingent vacancy on the 330B, but those typically go to a senior pilot looking to jump in the middle of the category. This time around I would expect the cutoff for entry into the 330B at 10,500
There seemed to be a consensus around nyc that there would be an exodus from 330-350 since the 74 guys wouldn't want Boeing. Which is a pure WAG but fun to consider.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:19 PM
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:27 PM
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What's taking so long?

Would love to be a fly on the wall as they discuss what not to backfill and hear some of the rationales.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BigHitterLlama
There seemed to be a consensus around nyc that there would be an exodus from 330-350 since the 74 guys wouldn't want Boeing. Which is a pure WAG but fun to consider.
I think you meant "74 pilots WOULD want Boeing". Consider for a moment the 744 is filled by mostly North pilots who have 320 and 330 time on their way to the 744. It is far more common for 777 (mostly South) pilots to be wary of the bus. NYC pilots stayed clear of the A330 initially because of a Boeing preference. Most ER pilots had only Boeing/Douglas time and dreaded flying fifi. I could see how they would expect the 744 pilots to stay on Boeing, but I think they will be surprised how many embrace the bus.

*My perception may be skewed since I have flown the 330 and have some 777 bids sprinkled around the 350 bid on my card this time around. The bid is not because of a Boeing preference, and I'll really miss the sidestick and meal if the slot machine wheels come up 777 next week.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
I resemble that remark. Any qualifiers? In the 95xx range, there were less than 20 with LAX 777 B as a first choice and under 60 total with an AE. The BIG unknown is the impact of 744 B fallout. None of the MD or VDs are counted in the numbers quoted above.
I was posting on the 10,700 range post. Of course the 744B could have a impact. Most know the MD and VDs are not in the Icrew numbers.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot
I was posting on the 10,700 range post. Of course the 744B could have a impact. Most know the MD and VDs are not in the Icrew numbers.
Got it. I thought you meant you were bidding LAX 777 B and expected to get in with 9,500 seniority.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
I think you meant "74 pilots WOULD want Boeing". Consider for a moment the 744 is filled by mostly North pilots who have 320 and 330 time on their way to the 744. It is far more common for 777 (mostly South) pilots to be wary of the bus. NYC pilots stayed clear of the A330 initially because of a Boeing preference. Most ER pilots had only Boeing/Douglas time and dreaded flying fifi. I could see how they would expect the 744 pilots to stay on Boeing, but I think they will be surprised how many embrace the bus.

*My perception may be skewed since I have flown the 330 and have some 777 bids sprinkled around the 350 bid on my card this time around. The bid is not because of a Boeing preference, and I'll really miss the sidestick and meal if the slot machine wheels come up 777 next week.
Yes. Typo thanks.
I don't have an opinion on if they're right - I'm too new. I'm just relaying what I heard a few times.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Got it. I thought you meant you were bidding LAX 777 B and expected to get in with 9,500 seniority.
It could happen. The plug is 9531. 50 open spots. We shall see.
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Old 05-18-2017 | 03:14 PM
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That too. Eventually I'll join that camp but not on this bid. 👍🏻
Good. Music to my ears. I love watching and hearing the many dislike the mad puppy. Lol
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Old 05-18-2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
I think you meant "74 pilots WOULD want Boeing". Consider for a moment the 744 is filled by mostly North pilots who have 320 and 330 time on their way to the 744. It is far more common for 777 (mostly South) pilots to be wary of the bus. NYC pilots stayed clear of the A330 initially because of a Boeing preference. Most ER pilots had only Boeing/Douglas time and dreaded flying fifi. I could see how they would expect the 744 pilots to stay on Boeing, but I think they will be surprised how many embrace the bus.

*My perception may be skewed since I have flown the 330 and have some 777 bids sprinkled around the 350 bid on my card this time around. The bid is not because of a Boeing preference, and I'll really miss the sidestick and meal if the slot machine wheels come up 777 next week.
Ehhh I think you'd be surprised how many whale guys actually have Airbus time. It's probably alot less than you think, but that doesn't mean they won't bid the 350.
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