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Old 10-19-2017, 07:05 AM
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news story out mgmt. says they played no part in the deal.

move along folks, nothing to see here....
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Old 10-19-2017, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DALFA View Post
I have to say that Boeing really ticked me off with this lawsuit. Look at all the widebodies Boeing sells with taxpayer subsidies via the ExIm bank and look at all the tax "incentives" Boeing keeps receiving in WA & SC.
Not to mention that more than 50% of the 787 is manufactured outside the USA.


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Old 10-19-2017, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
I tell the guys I'm teaching on the 320 that it'll take them a little time to get used to the sidestick, like, 2 maybe 3 seconds. And then don't grab the stick too tight and touch it very little and wow, look at that. You're smooth as can be. So maybe 30 seconds total.
Not sure if this makes me want to be in your sim or just run like he11!
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Old 10-19-2017, 07:48 AM
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They should put in a big trim wheel too...with a handle...so your knees can be in the loop too 😜
Boeing got a good deal on those surplus flywheels from the John Deere Tractor Company.
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincent Chase View Post
Not sure if this makes me want to be in your sim or just run like he11!
It just depends on how much you like to hold the stick.

If you like to hold it a lot- C Series.

If you don't like to hold it a lot- Airbus.

If you like to use both hands- Boeing.

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Old 10-19-2017, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
It just depends on how much you like to hold the stick.

If you like to hold it a lot- C Series.

If you don't like to hold it a lot- Airbus.

If you like to use both hands- Boeing.
And if you want to hold it with two hands and pump back and forth vigorously- Douglas.
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Old 10-19-2017, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Here is a small portion of a flight test by one of the most respected test pilots in the industry.

I have yet to fly a jetliner with more docile yet responsive handling qualities. Bombardier uses fly-by-wire to tame untoward aerodynamic, configuration and thrust behaviors rather than isolating pilots from the aircraft. The semi-active sidesticks are a leap forward in situational awareness. The speed-stable control law also helps keep flight crews in the loop, providing a natural feel.
There is no doubt the CS will feel fantastic to fly but I'd be very surprised if Airbus decided to adopt Bombardier's FBW philosophy after 30 years. The 350 doesn't even have a trim wheel anymore.
I'm curious to see what the Irkut mc21's FBW laws are like. I only know it will be the first civilian airliner with an active side stick. (Ie: left stick would move in phase with right stick)
I think that's what's lacking to not the Bus and the CS.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cynicalaviator View Post
I'm curious to see what the Irkut mc21's FBW laws are like. I only know it will be the first civilian airliner with an active side stick. (Ie: left stick would move in phase with right stick)
Isn't that how the stick in the C-17 and B-1 work?
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:35 AM
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Isn't that how the stick in the C-17 and B-1 work?
Can't speak for the C-17. But as for the Bone, yep...when it's working as designed. When there's an emergency with the manual controls, you can disconnect and then the right seater is in total control, subject to SIS/SEF.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonepilot469 View Post
Can't speak for the C-17. But as for the Bone, yep...when it's working as designed. When there's an emergency with the manual controls, you can disconnect and then the right seater is in total control, subject to SIS/SEF.
Thanks! I didn't know that the left seater's stick could be disconnected.
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