Originally Posted by tunes

Lol no. Not one single 9E pilot should go above the bottom pilot on the delta seniority list. Or any other regional for that matter.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

An arbitrator will make that call. Again, do you feel lucky?

Originally Posted by Peoloto

Ok Curly JR, I fly out of a base with heavy amounts of North pilots, I mostly only fly with them. Very rarely if ever do I hear them say anything of the sort. In fact, lots wish it was still here. Whether that's smart or not, not up to me to decide but they definitely do not say what you claim.

Originally Posted by boog123

I also fly with many F NWA pilots and what Curly Squared says is not the case, at all. Makes for a good story though if you are constantly trying to undermine.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

It was one flight and a grievance has been filed. The proper way to handle it would have been to work out a solution in advance that benefited both sides. We gained nothing by having pilots training delayed and the company will certainly lose the grievance. We have had two opportunities in the last year to make contractual improvements and work solutions that benefit both sides. We failed to use that leverage.
The company certainly erred in their A350 training plan and the end result delayed pilot training. Telling the company to go F yourself it’s all your fault is not the smart solution. The same thing applied in the fall when marketing increased MD88 flying. We could have made gains and not disrupted pilots scheduled training but picked another option that led to 90 pilots have training cancelled.
Both problems were company generated however that does not mean we should not participate in solutions that are in everyone’s best interest. I get that the MEC wanted the company to park 350’s. I just don’t understand why.
In the end the direction the MEC is going has no effect on me. It will be ugly for the junior people however. Former North pilots constantly tell me what a horrid place it was to work. We seem to be headed in that direction. It will be interesting to see how pilots feel when the company adopts a zero tolerance to pilot errors.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

An arbitrator will make that call. Again, do you feel lucky?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Your made up story is not how it happened at all. Not surprising, given your history of errors here.

The union tried to come up with a solution and the company said no. Same with the 350 instructors... the union was aware months in advance, told the company there was an issue and tried to work something out, but the company was belligerent, just like with the delivery flight.

It takes two to tango.

Originally Posted by Lou Reed

Sorry if it's already been mentioned in the thread, but would this July AE also include 330 vacancies for when those birds start arriving next spring? Or would it be later in the year.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Your made up story is not how it happened at all. Not surprising, given your history of errors here.

The union tried to come up with a solution and the company said no. Same with the 350 instructors... the union was aware months in advance, told the company there was an issue and tried to work something out, but the company was belligerent, just like with the delivery flight.

It takes two to tango.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

What solution did the union propose?