Recall?
07-06-2018 | 07:30 AM
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This should read, LDAL that historically have used proactive engagement, win-win style negotiations, some give/some take type of engagement that has propelled this pilot group to the forefront of the industry, helping the company make billions, enabling our pilots to lead the pack, enabling morale to be high, while still holding management accountable for their actions and standing tough when necessary.
Vs.
Old school NWA style of fighting for everything, drawing lines in the sand, never leading the industry in anything, making their own pilot miserable, and morale being in the gutter.
But hey, shutting the VB LOA, SIL LOA, antagonistic comms, etc are certainly worthy of a few chest bumps.
Vs.
Old school NWA style of fighting for everything, drawing lines in the sand, never leading the industry in anything, making their own pilot miserable, and morale being in the gutter.
But hey, shutting the VB LOA, SIL LOA, antagonistic comms, etc are certainly worthy of a few chest bumps.
Were you former NW? I’m not. But maybe there does need to be a more definitive line between the Company and the Union.
Everything you state (except Dalpa hasn’t shutdown SIL LOA yet) is contractually valid. As in no violation of the contract by the union. Can you say the same thing about the Company or do I have to go back and list all the recent Company violations. (plural)
Denny
07-06-2018 | 07:35 AM
#12
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Your both only half correct. The LDAL group brought us the turd of TA-1 - the Pilots wisely rejected it. Then we got a much better TA-2. The hardcore LNW types wanted us to reject it - the Pilots wisely passed it.
Bottom line - LDAL group was too acquiescing. The LNW group was too intransigent. Despite that the Pilot group got it right both times.
Scoop
07-06-2018 | 08:59 AM
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Anyone remember the Donatelli turd? Yeah... I do. That was your LDAL style of “perfection” that got shot down like an Iraqi MiG. Then it was NWA style negotiations with balls that got us the contract we are on... including full retro AND NO change to profit sharing. Did you forget? Or were you not here yet?
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Or were you not here yet..TIC 😊...???
07-06-2018 | 09:07 AM
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Anyone remember the Donatelli turd? Yeah... I do. That was your LDAL style of “perfection” that got shot down like an Iraqi MiG. Then it was NWA style negotiations with balls that got us the contract we are on... including full retro AND NO change to profit sharing. Did you forget? Or were you not here yet?
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07-06-2018 | 10:06 AM
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Agreed. Unfortunately, we have gone from the mentality that got us TA1 to almost a DPA like one on the MEC now. The pendulum has swung way past moderation.
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