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03-29-2019 | 09:06 AM
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Yep. LAX 320 A plug isn't that far below the 7ER plug. A junior line holding LAX 73N A, wouldn't have made the plug on the LAX 320 A. That says a lot about QOL expectations. That could change with the 321NEO, it will be a great redeye machine like the -800 , -900 and 757.
03-29-2019 | 09:12 AM
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Yep. LAX 320 A plug isn't that far below the 7ER plug. A junior line holding LAX 73N A, wouldn't have made the plug on the LAX 320 A. That says a lot about QOL expectations. That could change with the 321NEO, it will be a great redeye machine like the -800 , -900 and 757.
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03-29-2019 | 09:20 AM
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03-29-2019 | 10:14 AM
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03-29-2019 | 01:48 PM
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Why would they care? Its not like the A positions were going to go unfilled and they can just pump new hires in for the Bs.
It would think that if guys bid in and are disappointed, they will bid out as soon as possible. Seems to me it would benefit the company to be as forthright as possible.
Am I missing something?
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03-29-2019 | 03:07 PM
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Not sure what you are getting at here? Are you saying the company was going out of its way to entice Pilots to bid into the category?
Why would they care? Its not like the A positions were going to go unfilled and they can just pump new hires in for the Bs.
It would think that if guys bid in and are disappointed, they will bid out as soon as possible. Seems to me it would benefit the company to be as forthright as possible.
Am I missing something?
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Why would they care? Its not like the A positions were going to go unfilled and they can just pump new hires in for the Bs.
It would think that if guys bid in and are disappointed, they will bid out as soon as possible. Seems to me it would benefit the company to be as forthright as possible.
Am I missing something?
Scoop
03-29-2019 | 07:15 PM
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I think he’s suggesting that the A321NEO Hawaii flying was hyped quite a bit during the bid but the first NEO doesn’t arrive for a year I think, and it’ll be a little while after that before our ETOPS approval is in hand. It could be 2-5 years before the first A321 launches from LAX and heads west.
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03-30-2019 | 08:49 AM
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background from fleet LLCA and Tech pilot, no remaining 321CEOs will come ETOPS.
First 20 321NEO airframes will come ETOPS, delivery schedule begins March 2020. Drawing a parallel to the 739 ETOPS delivery to deployment its reasonable the 321NEO ETOPS flying will start in a similar short time frame.
20 ETOPS airframes should be adequate to cover the presently anticipated HI flying. fleet deliveries from 3/20 on will be 321NEOs to what will be the largest NB fleet at the airline.
Doubtful the carrot of HI was primary sway for anyone who bid the category on an AE. The opportunity of joining a growing fleet, and the multipliers offered in any new category opening were likely equally attractive considerations. The MD awardees likely arrived as a default resulting from other priorities, considerations, and opportunities.
one sales pitch unknown is how large the LAX320 category will eventually become. characterized as 'substantially' larger than the initial staffing level. Given HI has limited traffic to occupy what will end up being a fleet predominated by 321NEOs economically suited to longer stage length service, it is possible the category will grow substantially to staff longer mid continent, transcon, and central America service.
Then again.....they may just fly the time out of ATL.
First 20 321NEO airframes will come ETOPS, delivery schedule begins March 2020. Drawing a parallel to the 739 ETOPS delivery to deployment its reasonable the 321NEO ETOPS flying will start in a similar short time frame.
20 ETOPS airframes should be adequate to cover the presently anticipated HI flying. fleet deliveries from 3/20 on will be 321NEOs to what will be the largest NB fleet at the airline.
Doubtful the carrot of HI was primary sway for anyone who bid the category on an AE. The opportunity of joining a growing fleet, and the multipliers offered in any new category opening were likely equally attractive considerations. The MD awardees likely arrived as a default resulting from other priorities, considerations, and opportunities.
one sales pitch unknown is how large the LAX320 category will eventually become. characterized as 'substantially' larger than the initial staffing level. Given HI has limited traffic to occupy what will end up being a fleet predominated by 321NEOs economically suited to longer stage length service, it is possible the category will grow substantially to staff longer mid continent, transcon, and central America service.
Then again.....they may just fly the time out of ATL.
03-30-2019 | 03:05 PM
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background from fleet LLCA and Tech pilot, no remaining 321CEOs will come ETOPS.
First 20 321NEO airframes will come ETOPS, delivery schedule begins March 2020. Drawing a parallel to the 739 ETOPS delivery to deployment its reasonable the 321NEO ETOPS flying will start in a similar short time frame.
20 ETOPS airframes should be adequate to cover the presently anticipated HI flying. fleet deliveries from 3/20 on will be 321NEOs to what will be the largest NB fleet at the airline.
Doubtful the carrot of HI was primary sway for anyone who bid the category on an AE. The opportunity of joining a growing fleet, and the multipliers offered in any new category opening were likely equally attractive considerations. The MD awardees likely arrived as a default resulting from other priorities, considerations, and opportunities.
one sales pitch unknown is how large the LAX320 category will eventually become. characterized as 'substantially' larger than the initial staffing level. Given HI has limited traffic to occupy what will end up being a fleet predominated by 321NEOs economically suited to longer stage length service, it is possible the category will grow substantially to staff longer mid continent, transcon, and central America service.
Then again.....they may just fly the time out of ATL.
First 20 321NEO airframes will come ETOPS, delivery schedule begins March 2020. Drawing a parallel to the 739 ETOPS delivery to deployment its reasonable the 321NEO ETOPS flying will start in a similar short time frame.
20 ETOPS airframes should be adequate to cover the presently anticipated HI flying. fleet deliveries from 3/20 on will be 321NEOs to what will be the largest NB fleet at the airline.
Doubtful the carrot of HI was primary sway for anyone who bid the category on an AE. The opportunity of joining a growing fleet, and the multipliers offered in any new category opening were likely equally attractive considerations. The MD awardees likely arrived as a default resulting from other priorities, considerations, and opportunities.
one sales pitch unknown is how large the LAX320 category will eventually become. characterized as 'substantially' larger than the initial staffing level. Given HI has limited traffic to occupy what will end up being a fleet predominated by 321NEOs economically suited to longer stage length service, it is possible the category will grow substantially to staff longer mid continent, transcon, and central America service.
Then again.....they may just fly the time out of ATL.
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