MD-90 Retirement Acceleration
04-12-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The A220-300 is 130 seats if I'm not mistaken.
The fuel efficient 150 seater is the A320neo where the bypass ratio kicks up from 5:1 or so to 12:1, the fuel cost drops by 20%, maintenance drops by 20% and noise dropbs by 50-80% and it's all divided over 157 seats. Plus, it joins a fleet of 350 possibly 450 jets and several thousand already trained pilots.
Problem is there are 4,200 orders in front of us and I bet more coming soon. Too bad we didn't order them a few years back and ask to take delivery in 2022 or so. Luckily they're aiming to push 60+ a month soon.
The A220, I believe the brain trust who designed it was let go. For a A225 they'd have to go bring them back, design it, test it, build it and try to ramp up production which would probably be 2030 range according to the interweb. But by then maybe we can finally get some Neos.
The fuel efficient 150 seater is the A320neo where the bypass ratio kicks up from 5:1 or so to 12:1, the fuel cost drops by 20%, maintenance drops by 20% and noise dropbs by 50-80% and it's all divided over 157 seats. Plus, it joins a fleet of 350 possibly 450 jets and several thousand already trained pilots.
Problem is there are 4,200 orders in front of us and I bet more coming soon. Too bad we didn't order them a few years back and ask to take delivery in 2022 or so. Luckily they're aiming to push 60+ a month soon.
The A220, I believe the brain trust who designed it was let go. For a A225 they'd have to go bring them back, design it, test it, build it and try to ramp up production which would probably be 2030 range according to the interweb. But by then maybe we can finally get some Neos.
04-12-2019, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
Lately, when the company has sought to replace a certain aircraft type, they have upsized. This is why the A221 is largely replacing big RJ's and the 739 and A321 are replacing the MD-88. You have the effect of lower CASM and the ability to add capacity without having to increase flights. Keep in mind they also don't always replace one-for-one. By and large the A320NEO isn't the star of the NEO family, the 321NEO is. Before its recent problems, the MAX 8 outsold the 320NEO because it can fit a couple extra rows of seats making it more efficient. Eventually we have to completely replace our fleet of A319/320s (with the 320s needing replacing first), the MD-90's and eventually the 738's. Don't forget that we have 100 options in addition to the 100 firm 321NEOs that Ed has already publicly said at the time of the order that he intends to exercise. And thus far we have only exercised 90 out of 125orders/options on the A220. So all of what I mentioned could be a part of the plan.
Second order: additional 15
04-12-2019, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
The A220-300 is 130 seats if I'm not mistaken.
The fuel efficient 150 seater is the A320neo where the bypass ratio kicks up from 5:1 or so to 12:1, the fuel cost drops by 20%, engine maintenance drops by 20% and noise dropbs by 50-80% and it's all divided over 157 seats. Plus, it joins a fleet of 350 possibly 450 jets and several thousand already trained pilots.
The fuel efficient 150 seater is the A320neo where the bypass ratio kicks up from 5:1 or so to 12:1, the fuel cost drops by 20%, engine maintenance drops by 20% and noise dropbs by 50-80% and it's all divided over 157 seats. Plus, it joins a fleet of 350 possibly 450 jets and several thousand already trained pilots.
04-13-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Hatter
The 15 additional are the CS100/A220; probably because the Mobile facility isn't anywhere near ready to assemble airframes yet.
04-14-2019, 04:14 PM
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Fleet Information
As part of our fleet transformation, during the quarter we took delivery of 25 mainline aircraft and 3 CRJ-900 aircraft, and removed 11 aircraft from our active fleet. Our operating aircraft fleet and commitments at March 31, 2019 are summarized in the following table:
page 27 10Q
https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives...331201910q.htm
As part of our fleet transformation, during the quarter we took delivery of 25 mainline aircraft and 3 CRJ-900 aircraft, and removed 11 aircraft from our active fleet. Our operating aircraft fleet and commitments at March 31, 2019 are summarized in the following table:
page 27 10Q
https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives...331201910q.htm
04-17-2019, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Used prices went way up, and the tax implications on new equipment became much more favorable. The used equipment allowed debt to be paid down to get better financing rates, now new is the better buy.
Delta needs
50 - 100 A220-500s
20 - 40 A321XLRs
30ish A350neos which are due out in 2025 as the current option is underperforming
Delta needs
50 - 100 A220-500s
20 - 40 A321XLRs
30ish A350neos which are due out in 2025 as the current option is underperforming
After Boeing’s ridiculous fumble with the MAX and it’s old technology, it’s highly unlikely they will skip the 797 - they need something new...
04-17-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Don’t forget 200+ 797s!!!!!!
After Boeing’s ridiculous fumble with the MAX and it’s old technology, it’s highly unlikely they will skip the 797 - they need something new...
After Boeing’s ridiculous fumble with the MAX and it’s old technology, it’s highly unlikely they will skip the 797 - they need something new...
The 321XLR is now in the mix when it comes to an ER replacement.
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