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04-14-2019, 06:27 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs
I don't have any problem with the 30-hour layovers. I'm with you, using them to explore local fare and activities is fantastic. My favorite layovers are those where I've got time and I know folks willing to show me their favorite things to do.
I'm just saying that, going to a duty (only) rig won't solve every problem. Each and every change needs to be evaluated for how it can 1) put more money into our W2s but also 2) how can the company 'optimize' it to their benefit.
I keep hearing people spout off about this rig or that rig without thinking about how it'll impact the overall QOL. You can't look at the rigs in a vacuum.
I'm just saying that, going to a duty (only) rig won't solve every problem. Each and every change needs to be evaluated for how it can 1) put more money into our W2s but also 2) how can the company 'optimize' it to their benefit.
I keep hearing people spout off about this rig or that rig without thinking about how it'll impact the overall QOL. You can't look at the rigs in a vacuum.
04-14-2019, 07:37 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs
I missed this on the original read-through. Agreed.
04-15-2019, 04:46 PM
#63
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs
I don't have any problem with the 30-hour layovers. I'm with you, using them to explore local fare and activities is fantastic. My favorite layovers are those where I've got time and I know folks willing to show me their favorite things to do.
I'm just saying that, going to a duty (only) rig won't solve every problem. Each and every change needs to be evaluated for how it can 1) put more money into our W2s but also 2) how can the company 'optimize' it to their benefit.
I keep hearing people spout off about this rig or that rig without thinking about how it'll impact the overall QOL. You can't look at the rigs in a vacuum.
I'm just saying that, going to a duty (only) rig won't solve every problem. Each and every change needs to be evaluated for how it can 1) put more money into our W2s but also 2) how can the company 'optimize' it to their benefit.
I keep hearing people spout off about this rig or that rig without thinking about how it'll impact the overall QOL. You can't look at the rigs in a vacuum.
04-15-2019, 05:53 PM
#65
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Originally Posted by DrunkIrishman
Are you for real!? I love those. Skiing in the winter and music/beer festivals in the summer all on the company dime. If you don’t like them, then don’t bid them.
If you’re junior, then stop bidding equipment you can barely hold. Voila, 30 hr problem solved for you.
If you’re junior, then stop bidding equipment you can barely hold. Voila, 30 hr problem solved for you.
I’d rather work 2 days in...2 days, and have my day off at home with my family. To each their own though, but they mostly go junior for a reason.
04-15-2019, 06:21 PM
#66
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Originally Posted by sidestep
The problem with 30hr layovers is a typical 3 day will fly 7:45 day 1 - arrive at 11p/12a. sleep (but not too long because you have a 430a van on day 3) then block 7:45 on the last day. For a total of 15:30-15:45 block. Essentially a min credit 3 day that could have been flown in 2 days with a day off at a random outstation.
I’d rather work 2 days in...2 days, and have my day off at home with my family. To each their own though, but they mostly go junior for a reason.
I’d rather work 2 days in...2 days, and have my day off at home with my family. To each their own though, but they mostly go junior for a reason.
04-15-2019, 06:26 PM
#67
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Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
Except in that scenario I would need one day after the trip to recover from flying almost 16 hours in two days. So I’ll take that day in a company hotel.
04-15-2019, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Really? You wouldn't rather recover in the comfort of your own home? I guess this just shows how different we all are! To each their own
04-15-2019, 06:47 PM
#69
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Really? You wouldn't rather recover in the comfort of your own home? I guess this just shows how different we all are! To each their own
But seriously, this just further showcases that for most of the things I dislike, there are other out there that prefer them. Case and point...I have guys look at me like I'm crazy when I tell them I hate 6 days and wish we had a lot more 3 day Europe trips. Of course they're commuters and I have an easy drive into work. Some of them wish we had 12 day trips back
04-15-2019, 06:50 PM
#70
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Originally Posted by Bert Sampson
Except in that scenario I would need one day after the trip to recover from flying almost 16 hours in two days. So I’ll take that day in a company hotel.
