This is not correct. What if someone beats me to booking my primary flight JS? I'll book my backup flight (both on company metal) and if on the day of I make my primary as a standby I'll just cancel the backup listing. Happens all the time.

 

Booking multiple jumpseats on the same city pair and the same day might get you in trouble, but what you describe would not. If you get on your primary flight as a nonrev or on another carrier altogether, the expectation is that you would then cancel the jumpseat listing on the backup flight. I’m not aware of that being against the rules at all. Where have you read that it is?

 

"Pass Travel Reminders
Be considerate of your fellow pass riders and airport agents. Do not list or activate on multiple flights. Cancel listings if your plans change. Jumpseaters, refer to your internal policy. Remember that nonrev standby travel is prohibited on any flight on the same day in the same market, same origin city, or same destination city for which a pass rider is holding or has held a confirmed reservation."

The JS he booked wasn't intended to be used and therefore blocks another pilot from booking it for their commute. That's exactly what the above policy is referring to. You're not allowed to book two nonrev flights, and you're not allowed to book two jumpseats (at least not that I can find, does our "internal policy" allow this?), so why would it be okay to do one of each? Granted if the first flight is OAL, then the company won't know unless someone rats you out, but you'll know, and the commuter gods will too...

Just list or book the JS for your primary. If it's OAL, don't book anything for your backup. If you miss the primary (FAA), call the company and they'll work with you to get you on the backup flight, that's the whole point of the commuter policy and why your backup should be on Delta.

 

I'm not sure what the rules or correct etiquette are. But I don't list for the JS on my backup flight. If I don't make my primary flight, and my back up is a Delta flight, I just call CS and get positive space. Rarely ever has to come to that though, because I'm a very conservative commuter.

 

Since your quote of the pass travel policy specifically mentioned jumpseat internal policy, I checked it out in the FOM.

Under the reservations section the FOM it says this:

"Multiple jumpseat reservations for the same date and city pair (double bookings) are prohibited. Dual jumpseat and non-revenue reservations for the same flight are prohibited" (my emphasis added).

Since the company specifically only prohibits JS and nonrev listings on the same flight, it stands to reason different listings on different flights are ok, or else they would have added that circumstance as well. It also says that if a confirmed JS reservation will not be used to cancel as soon as possible, preferably 30 minutes prior to departure. That falls under being considerate to other travelers, and seems to acknowledge that there will be some (many?) times that a booked JS will not actually be used.

Also, where you quote the pass travel policy banning listing and activating on multiple flights, that applies only to non-rev travel, not jumpseat travel. That is meant to prevent someone, for example, who is in CDG from listing and activating on a flight to ATL, a flight to DTW, JFK, etc all at the same time.

 

If the flight I’m trying to get on has the JS booked already I list as a non-rev and also reserve the next jumpseat.

How stupid would you feel if you didn’t make it on as a non-rev and then you find out someone else beat you to the JS on the next flight and you get stuck? Sorry, I’m going home.

 

Double bookings are prohibited as a nonrev and as a jumpseater. Combining the two doesn't make it okay.

In your scenario, keep the JS listing and go home. If you want to roll the dice on the earlier flight, wait until 45 minutes before push then cancel it and then list nonrev.

Easy peasy lemon squeegee

 

It's prohibited to list non-rev on multiple flights, your scenario is just one example of that.

But... I think you got me. Reading it like a lawyer, I think you're correct

We agree you cannot list non-rev on multiple flights, and you cannot list jumpseat on multiple flights, but I don't see it explicitly saying you can't mix the two.

Personally, I still think it's against the rules, or at the very least the spirit of them.

 

I guess the jumpseat is technically non-revenue too... Hmmm 🤔

 

I believe booking a jumpseat in this situation is acceptable. What would not be acceptable is failing to cancel it once on the Alaska flight.