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Old 08-07-2019, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack View Post
The 350 is a composite hull just like the 787. I thought the 350 had the same 6000' cabin altitude and higher humidity like the 787?

Also, the 787 has it's own issues...

https://www.ft.com/content/972b4392-...4-c32129756dd8

and...

http://www.businessinsider.com/boein...duction-2019-8

And let's not forget why it's nickname is 'sparky'.

Not saying the 350 is perfect but neither is the competition. If we stop at 15 jets, it will be because they decided it's more plane (size and range) than Delta needs based on the network strategy at the time. The 350 is a 777 competitor, look at how many of those we operate
I understand we did not opt for the humidifiers on our A350s, without those and without intentionally drying the air I'm not sure where that actually puts the humidity at.
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium View Post
I understand we did not opt for the humidifiers on our A350s, without those and without intentionally drying the air I'm not sure where that actually puts the humidity at.
No humidifiers on the Starship. On a long flight (12-14 hrs), we will go right to 36k and then step it up to 39-41k. All the while the cabin is at or below 6k. That makes a huge difference.
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:10 PM
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My wife and daughter just rode D 1 to Shanghai, loved the airplane and the suite, but the Previous post about treating the nonrev differently was spot on. My wife did say the meal services to the paying pax was very nice, and hers was good too, but after that they all disappeared. My wife asked where do they go? I said what do you mean? She was like they disappear...to somewhere? I laughed and explained about break schedules, bunk room etc. I asked if it would of been worth the 5 grand for the seat if we payed...she didn’t think so, but mainly because of the service....
Can we compete if our service isn’t to the level of our competition?
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:33 PM
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My wife and daughter just rode D 1 to Shanghai, loved the airplane and the suite, but the Previous post about treating the nonrev differently was spot on. My wife did say the meal services to the paying pax was very nice, and hers was good too, but after that they all disappeared. My wife asked where do they go? I said what do you mean? She was like they disappear...to somewhere? I laughed and explained about break schedules, bunk room etc. I asked if it would of been worth the 5 grand for the seat if we payed...she didn’t think so, but mainly because of the service....
Can we compete if our service isn’t to the level of our competition?
I recently flew in D1 on a 10 hour flight (roundtrip lucky me). I don't know what your wife expects. After the meal, there is a help yourself cart for snacks and there is at least one FA up there if you need something. Not to mention what seems like bi-hourly walk through handing out large water bottles. Then of course there is a second full service. Honestly, what else does she want? Should all the FAs be perpetually walking laps? To what end? Should they be handing out food every 30 minutes? Were call buttons not answered?
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:33 AM
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According to this article, neither the 350 nor the 787 have humidifiers as standard for the cabin, but are options. The composite material allows for the low cabin altitude, but the moisture is still a problem, mainly because it gets absorbed by the insulation and that extra water weight can push 500 lbs. The cockpit and crew rest areas also have optional humidifiers. Buyer's choice as to the installation.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/in-focus-manufacturers-aim-for-more-comfortable-cabin-climate-369425/
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey View Post
I recently flew in D1 on a 10 hour flight (roundtrip lucky me). I don't know what your wife expects. After the meal, there is a help yourself cart for snacks and there is at least one FA up there if you need something. Not to mention what seems like bi-hourly walk through handing out large water bottles. Then of course there is a second full service. Honestly, what else does she want? Should all the FAs be perpetually walking laps? To what end? Should they be handing out food every 30 minutes? Were call buttons not answered?
One thing that really surprised me when flying in D1 is the inconsistency of service. Sometimes the service is stellar, sometimes it's completely abysmal.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:30 AM
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One thing that really surprised me when flying in D1 is the inconsistency of service. Sometimes the service is stellar, sometimes it's completely abysmal.
It really shouldn't be all that surprising. Have you ever flown with leads that were former Pan-Am? Talk about a night and day difference in the way we're treated. I'm guessing the customers get the same experience.
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey View Post
I recently flew in D1 on a 10 hour flight (roundtrip lucky me). I don't know what your wife expects. After the meal, there is a help yourself cart for snacks and there is at least one FA up there if you need something. Not to mention what seems like bi-hourly walk through handing out large water bottles. Then of course there is a second full service. Honestly, what else does she want? Should all the FAs be perpetually walking laps? To what end? Should they be handing out food every 30 minutes? Were call buttons not answered?
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:57 AM
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I have had 5 friends ride the 350 on separate occasions and all of them loved it 3 sitting in coach
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:04 AM
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Not an excuse......but I guess it is......

On the 330-900 there is a forward galley right outside the cockpit door. This is different than our other 330’s. The FA’s are not used to it and are still figuring out how to best do the D-1 service along with the new premium class seats service. Some are better at it than others.

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