Senior Leadership: Outsourcing is Cheaper
11-20-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
Somehow SF doesn’t want to understand that even if we delivered 100 premium WB jets tonight we will still just match AA and be 10 short of UAL.
11-20-2019, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
He also doesn’t want to realize that we are happy, we are just disagreeing...
We have conceded, they shrank to the concession.
11-20-2019, 06:55 AM
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We are buying more WBs. They just come with their own airline to include NBs and employees. I am amazed by people not realizing we are growing. Big time growth. The choice was made long ago to grow the company this way.
11-20-2019, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SabreDriver
Same thing for me this summer to and from CUN. Travel to an all inclusive (stayed with a large family group) booked through Delta Vacation with the discount. ATL-CUN-ATL was on Delta metal, with AM flight numbers.
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Originally Posted by PassportPlump
For anyone heading to Mexico this winter, I found it interesting that I was able to buy a ticket on a flight operated by Delta, through Aeromexicos site, in comfort+, for cheaper than I could fly confirmed for even less. Round trip was $392 a person vs confirmed for even less at $467 a person (same days, same flights, same classes). Only thing is all of my flights are AM flight numbers with “operated by Delta Air Lines” in the subtext.
11-20-2019, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
In other good news, it appears as though Gumm’s tenure may be sunsetting. The problem going forward will be undoing the potentially long term damage done by tapping the brakes on hiring and staffing this year.
But show me the proof...
11-21-2019, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
Somehow SF doesn’t want to understand that even if we delivered 100 premium WB jets tonight we will still just match AA and be 10 short of UAL.
He also doesn’t want to realize that we are happy, we are just disagreeing with some of the decisions senior leadership is making.
Also brainwashing is clearly a problem - company should tell us about 16% reduction is the Pacific as well, not just about 2% “growth” a few years after the reduction.
He also doesn’t want to realize that we are happy, we are just disagreeing with some of the decisions senior leadership is making.
Also brainwashing is clearly a problem - company should tell us about 16% reduction is the Pacific as well, not just about 2% “growth” a few years after the reduction.
We currently have 153 widebody aircraft out of a total of 913. In addition we have over 120 757’s.
The math you use is very different than mine.
11-21-2019, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
I didn’t write WB, I wrote premium WB 
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11-21-2019, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
I didn’t write WB, I wrote premium WB
Ya, that's a terribly misleading slide. My numbers were based on if we actually banded like UAL and AAL (didn't include 75/763). But we can't band like UAL/AAL because you can't give one group a bigger pay raise than another, so I'm told... 
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