Senior Leadership: Outsourcing is Cheaper
11-21-2019, 07:07 AM
#82
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Captain
Posts: 1,561
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
I didn’t write WB, I wrote premium WB 
Top pay United
74 777-200
20 777-300 (2 more to be delivered 2020)
47 787s (17 more to be delivered 2020)
16 764s
12 year Captain pay $354, FO pay $244
Total 157 aircraft
11-21-2019, 07:10 AM
#83
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Originally Posted by Trip7
This chart has less to do with aircraft orders and more to do with the 767-400 and 330 not being paybanded like United and American.
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It must be paybanded then
11-21-2019, 08:23 AM
#84
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: MD88
Posts: 447
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Very interesting that he said what we all already knew. That’s some great negotiations ammo.
In other good news, it appears as though Gumm’s tenure may be sunsetting. The problem going forward will be undoing the potentially long term damage done by tapping the brakes on hiring and staffing this year.
In other good news, it appears as though Gumm’s tenure may be sunsetting. The problem going forward will be undoing the potentially long term damage done by tapping the brakes on hiring and staffing this year.
That’s Captain Gumm to you sir!
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11-21-2019, 09:19 AM
#87
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Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Last I checked, $330 > $328
11-21-2019, 09:21 AM
#88
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Position: A350 Both
Posts: 7,292
Originally Posted by notEnuf
The banded aircraft. 767-400, 787, 330-9 our rates are lower, and they have more, so more makes more. And I thought you were Mr. banding...
11-21-2019, 09:35 AM
#89
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Nope. I am for a more rational pay scale. Longevity/seat We will always make less in a career than either UAL or AAL even with banding. It's just math.
So by the math, I will make less, why would I give up anything else? (thread crossover)
11-21-2019, 09:45 AM
#90
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Because they have more higher paying aircraft. I thought our PS made up for that? (some claim) And that's a great reason to give it up, right?
So by the math, I will make less, why would I give up anything else? (thread crossover)
So by the math, I will make less, why would I give up anything else? (thread crossover)
So... since you are hell bent to turn this thread into that one, I'll ask you here too. Do you realistically think we can/will sign a contract with zero on the company's side of the ledger?
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