Originally Posted by Jaxs170 (Post 2961829)

Our (NYC 73N) bid package is falling apart very rapidly. I'm top 10% and I can't get M-F commutable anymore. Once the NEOs show up it will get worse as they start taking over our best flying. The 737 is destined to become the next MD-90.

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2961856)

Just flipped through some narrow body bid packets/wides...wow! Base on that and the noticeable lack of premium vacation weeks available, I expect to see WB FO go senior and NB A go junior. I know that for whatever reason, we'll always have those that just have to get back in the left seat ASAP. But we'll probably see a new type of junior NB A that simply say screw it, my schedule is already crappy, might as well make the pay.

Even as a fairly junior WB FO, there is no way you could get me to bid NB A right now. When even the top 1/3rd are getting coverage and barely able to get a premium vacation, it just isn't worth the little bump in pay I'd see. Our domestic rotation construction and work rules need a massive overhaul.

Originally Posted by DELTAFO (Post 2961617)

Which newsletter says that 76 retirements are accelerating?

Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2961907)

Or the NB Capt categories where the top 1/3 can't hold decent vacation weeks....that just ain't right. Guess that was "their" solution to last summer's goat rope.

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2961909)

Line holders in the top half can't be given coverage. However, reserves could get coverage even if they're the number 2 person in category to bid reserve. Not everyone in to top third bid a line. 30% in DTW320A got coverage on reserve.

Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 2961907)

Or the NB Capt categories where the top 1/3 can't hold decent vacation weeks....that just ain't right. Guess that was "their" solution to last summer's goat rope.

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2961912)

I fly with former (relatively senior) WB Bs who say their pay as NB A is a significant jump over their previous earnings. What do you figure your theoretical difference to be such that you call it only a "little bump"?

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2961983)

If line holders can’t be given coverage trips, why are there two different colors on the wide report? The light blue rotations are the normally assigned trips, so what do you call the purple rotations?

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2961999)

Poor wording on my part. My 1/3rd comment was in reference to coverage. Decrease in premium vacation weeks was more a general comment since it seems to have been a trend this year.



I'm ~90% in my current category and would be that or worse on any NB A in my base (I won't commute). To jump to NB A, I figured somewhere between 2-4k/month increase BEFORE taxes. When you look at it through the lens of pay per day worked it isn't a huge increase. In many instances, day-for-day, I'm very close or even slightly ahead of those in the 320A. On top of that, save a few holidays, I have nearly complete control over my schedule in my current category. I basically drop everything and pick up the more efficient trips that easily allow me to close the gap on pay/day worked. This is before I even consider the fact that sitting reserve in base for me drives that number up big time, not to mention QOL on reserve is MUCH better on a WB. Based on the NB A wides/coverage, I'd have nearly zero control over my schedule, which be a huge hit in QOL.

Oddly enough, as I work my way up to 12 year pay, the pay gap gets less and less.



Coverage for line holders can only go up to 75% (of line holders) in non-holiday months and 50% in holiday months. On reserve, coverage is dictated my 12.M.4, which in some categories means each X-day needs to be available once. This means the number 2 guy bidding reserve could easily be subject to coverage.

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2962006)

I was unaware of the 50%/75% thresholds...what’s the PWA references for my future reference?

Please and Thank You.

Originally Posted by BlueSkies (Post 2961936)

I feel like as my seniority has finally started to move up at a decent clip (ATL 73N B) my trips and overall schedule have at the same time gone downhill. I'm sure I'm not the only one.