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EDVPLT 01-25-2020 10:33 AM

I understand this AE closes on Monday but when do the results get published? I am a new hire starting early March and curious if we will bid based on the results of this AE.

Aviator147 01-25-2020 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by EDVPLT (Post 2964100)
I understand this AE closes on Monday but when do the results get published? I am a new hire starting early March and curious if we will bid based on the results of this AE.

the results will probably be out in a week or so, there’s a good chance your bids will be based on the results of the AE

weekendflyer 01-25-2020 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by EDVPLT (Post 2964100)
I understand this AE closes on Monday but when do the results get published? I am a new hire starting early March and curious if we will bid based on the results of this AE.

probably friday

DWC CAP10 USAF 01-25-2020 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Aviator147 (Post 2964105)
the results will probably be out in a week or so, there’s a good chance your bids will be based on the results of the AE

not just a good chance...it 100% will be based on the AE results.

Aviator147 01-25-2020 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2964109)
not just a good chance...it 100% will be based on the AE results.


you’re right. Lazy writing on my part :D

sailingfun 01-25-2020 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 2964109)
not just a good chance...it 100% will be based on the AE results.

The problem is on a bid this size there will be new hire spots available in most narrow body categories. Where the company chooses to place new hires can’t really be judged beyond the fact most will be NYC. Aircraft types are based on sim availability and IOE constraints. New Hires smooth the pipelines out since the company gets to place them with relatively short notice.

Funk 01-25-2020 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2964150)
The problem is on a bid this size there will be new hire spots available in most narrow body categories. Where the company chooses to place new hires can’t really be judged beyond the fact most will be NYC. Aircraft types are based on sim availability and IOE constraints. New Hires smooth the pipelines out since the company gets to place them with relatively short notice.

It’s also like trying to fill a bucket with holes in it, and NYC is that bucket. The natural tendency for pilots to bid their way out of commuting (traditionally to NYC), and there are so many openings available, the company has of late (ATLM88B excepted), generally only offered NYC to new hires in order to keep it staffed and allow conversions by more senior pilots to other bases. By the time the company gets anywhere near to filling the NYC categories, we hold another AE, allowing many of those pilots to bid to other places, thereby sustaining the demand for new bodies to New York.

4fans 01-25-2020 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Funk (Post 2964152)
It’s also like trying to fill a bucket with holes in it, and NYC is that bucket. The natural tendency for pilots to bid their way out of commuting (traditionally to NYC), and there are so many openings available, the company has of late (ATLM88B excepted), generally only offered NYC to new hires in order to keep it staffed and allow conversions by more senior pilots to other bases. By the time the company gets anywhere near to filling the NYC categories, we hold another AE, allowing many of those pilots to bid to other places, thereby sustaining the demand for new bodies to New York.

In the last big hiring wave, by mid 2015 new hires were getting all kinds of crazy stuff. My class was half New York stuff and half 73n and 7ER to Atlanta. It kinda just depends on what needs filling that week. They were giving out so many ERs to new hires that people were waiting forever to get their OE and TOE done.

4fans 01-25-2020 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2964174)
In the last big hiring wave, by mid 2015 new hires were getting all kinds of crazy stuff. My class was half New York stuff and half 73n and 7ER to Atlanta. It kinda just depends on what needs filling that week. They were giving out so many ERs to new hires that people were waiting forever to get their OE and TOE done.

I heard a rumor some time back that delta had made the 320->330 training a day or two longer resulting in a 2 year seat lock instead of a one year seat lock. Any truth to that?

igotgummed 01-25-2020 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by 4fans (Post 2964199)
I heard a rumor some time back that delta had made the 320->330 training a day or two longer resulting in a 2 year seat lock instead of a one year seat lock. Any truth to that?


that is a a true statement


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