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Old 02-01-2020 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookenbauer
And the cost of doing that business should be properly compensating us with premium pay automatically. I get the company wants to stay ahead of the power curve. And if they need me to do it...fine. but you dont get to have your cake and eat it to. If you are going to treat my awarded rotation as a rough draft, then show me the money. And I might just answer my phone too.
From what they said at the meeting, company is trying to mess with our Open Time again.
Don't remember the details but it has to do with how they want to break up the trips and how to assign them, would be a huge concession and would basically get rid of a lot of green slips going out, DALPA of course didn't agree to any of it.
QOL issues are at the forefront for this contract.
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Old 02-01-2020 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookenbauer
And the cost of doing that business should be properly compensating us with premium pay automatically. I get the company wants to stay ahead of the power curve. And if they need me to do it...fine. but you dont get to have your cake and eat it to. If you are going to treat my awarded rotation as a rough draft, then show me the money. And I might just answer my phone too.
100% agree. Seniority needs to mean something with regard to our schedules. You change the schedule I was awarded...pay up.
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Old 02-01-2020 | 04:26 PM
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100% agree. Seniority needs to mean something with regard to our schedules. You change the schedule I was awarded...pay up.
They actually gave a great example of this, they are trying to fix this.
What's the point of seniority if you don't fly what you bid? Beyond ridiculous.

It's really sad how far behind other pilot groups we are, had an ex-southwest guy at the meeting and was explaining their re-route pay .. they almost want to get re-routed ... sometimes pays premium for the whole 3-4 day trip.
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Old 02-01-2020 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Cookenbauer
And the cost of doing that business should be properly compensating us with premium pay automatically. I get the company wants to stay ahead of the power curve. And if they need me to do it...fine. but you dont get to have your cake and eat it to. If you are going to treat my awarded rotation as a rough draft, then show me the money. And I might just answer my phone too.
100% agree. Seniority needs to mean something with regard to our schedules. You change the schedule I was awarded...pay up.
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Old 02-01-2020 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
And new guys think you'll do just fine.with your claim/note, frozen pension, an extra 5 years at the top of the seniority list, 15-20 years of 401k, and the stock you got for free from the company. (Yes, I know not all of those were directly earmarked as "rretirement")
Hmm. I have 30 years and still cannot hold 777A. Guys 3-5 years ahead of me is who you are talking about. They have been flying 777A for 12-15 years.... What stock?
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Old 02-01-2020 | 07:28 PM
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Hmm. I have 30 years and still cannot hold 777A. Guys 3-5 years ahead of me is who you are talking about. They have been flying 777A for 12-15 years.... What stock?
disregard him. Probably didn’t even have a pilots license when the BK was happening. Most of his knowledge base on the subject comes fro. Things he “heard” along the way. Ask him for any concrete numbers and you will most likely get crickets.
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Old 02-02-2020 | 01:08 AM
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I would expect some “ask” from the company in the form of schedule relief, there is no way the summer flying will happen with out that.
Looks like the current people won’t just give with out something in return.
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Old 02-02-2020 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dbrownie
I would expect some “ask” from the company in the form of schedule relief, there is no way the summer flying will happen with out that.
Looks like the current people won’t just give with out something in return.
There will be no side letters or relief.

The only way any “ask” will be granted is if C2019 is signed and complete.

Any help will be time limited and never permanent.

In my opinion.
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Old 02-02-2020 | 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dbrownie
I would expect some “ask” from the company in the form of schedule relief, there is no way the summer flying will happen with out that.
Looks like the current people won’t just give with out something in return.
The company has no plans to have a contract by summer so I doubt that’s a consideration.
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Old 02-02-2020 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
disregard him. Probably didn’t even have a pilots license when the BK was happening. Most of his knowledge base on the subject comes fro. Things he “heard” along the way. Ask him for any concrete numbers and you will most likely get crickets.
You are probably right, but that is true about a very large part of the pilot group now.
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