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Old 03-29-2020 | 02:45 PM
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I believe the section of LOA 20-01 you are referring to is paragraph 1. Very first sentence.

Any pilot who is non-symptomatic, but who is directed by any Company, medical, or government personnel, or any governmental or legal order, to receive medical evaluation, treatment, or quarantine based on concerns, conditions or events related to COVId-19, yada yada
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Old 03-29-2020 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
bullet point number two… A pilot who is directed by a healthcare professional to quarantine…. You are missing the first part of the LOA That is my situation. This is a big deal for people on certain medications… normal circumstances, no problem.
The government has gone so far to say that certain people with specific medical conditions are at a much higher risk and should avoid personal contact with everyone. If you fall into any of those categories it would be hard for the company to deny any negotiated benefit, especially with a Dr note.
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Old 03-29-2020 | 02:57 PM
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That would be me, over 60 years old with multiple immunosuppressant drugs
I have been here for 30 years with no problem until now
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Old 03-29-2020 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
says the guy who probably voted for sick leave verification…
I voted yes on TA2. Got me.

My wife has a rare lung disease (10% death rate without covid-19) that isn’t curable and my son has severe asthma. I’m doing the paperwork too. They are going to pay me to not work because of my family. Look, I’m not impressed with Delta lately but this is a good deal.
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Old 03-29-2020 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
I voted yes on TA2. Got me.

My wife has a rare lung disease (10% death rate without covid-19) that isn’t curable and my son has severe asthma. I’m doing the paperwork too. They are going to pay me to not work because of my family. Look, I’m not impressed with Delta lately but this is a good deal.
well, you had better be prepared to comply with their arbitrary unpublished requirements or you will be doing the paperwork again… Just my experience
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Old 03-29-2020 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
well, you had better be prepared to comply with their arbitrary unpublished requirements or you will be doing the paperwork again… Just my experience
Not making this a ****ing contest so I’m sorry if you took it that way. Did ALPA help? I spoke with them and they have walked me how to go about it if things get worse. They had told me specifically to put an end date. Just curious what troubles you’ve seen.

My argument was based on I feel like this is a non contractural thing and thus I’m willing to get bogged in BS.
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Old 03-29-2020 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaww
Not making this a ****ing contest so I’m sorry if you took it that way. Did ALPA help? I spoke with them and they have walked me how to go about it if things get worse. They had told me specifically to put an end date. Just curious what troubles you’ve seen.

My argument was based on I feel like this is a non contractural thing and thus I’m willing to get bogged in BS.
ALPA did help but I have been informed from management that they have tightened the requirements since initially publicizing them therefore changing the rules. I find that part just tasteful and unacceptable This is an affront directed toward the Pilot group.
Who knows what an appropriate and date is?
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Old 03-29-2020 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
ALPA did help but I have been informed from management that they have tightened the requirements since initially publicizing them therefore changing the rules. I find that part just tasteful and unacceptable This is an affront directed toward the Pilot group.
Who knows what an appropriate and date is?
Agreed. I was just going to tell the doc to make it a year out. I didn’t really think anything if that.

Changing the goalposts is disingenuous. Take back what I said. Par for the course lately at DAL.
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Old 03-29-2020 | 04:41 PM
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Well the BS thing here is that there isn't a damn thing essential about flying business personnel or vacationers or whomever right now. The ONLY people that should be on aircraft, and that's a big IF, are critical medical personnel and critical gov't personnel. The notion that we are essential is laughable at best, damn near criminal at worst. I had no problem going to combat multiple upon multiple times over 20+ years, but NEVER did it place my family in immediate harms way. This DOES on too many fronts. I live in FL and TODAY a pax from NYC to JAX was caught with active COVID-19 in the back (caught by National Guard guys) (thanks guys by the way!). The problem is some don't know they got it, while others do know and fly anyway. My opinion is that the company is deliberately and unabashedly placing us all and our families in harms way by not just shutting down the operation for a few weeks. I'd like to see all the managers/leaders fly back and forth to NYC, layover in a scuzzy motel, eat in a local restaurant and use public transportation to go back and forth for the next 4 weeks and try to fly and be responsible for 200+ peoples lives an NOT be distracted. I love our company and I love working here, but right now it seems we need to put each other's families a little higher on the totem pole of importance rather than flying that next line.
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Old 03-29-2020 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vyperdriver
Well the BS thing here is that there isn't a damn thing essential about flying business personnel or vacationers or whomever right now. The ONLY people that should be on aircraft, and that's a big IF, are critical medical personnel and critical gov't personnel. The notion that we are essential is laughable at best, damn near criminal at worst. I had no problem going to combat multiple upon multiple times over 20+ years, but NEVER did it place my family in immediate harms way. This DOES on too many fronts. I live in FL and TODAY a pax from NYC to JAX was caught with active COVID-19 in the back (caught by National Guard guys) (thanks guys by the way!). The problem is some don't know they got it, while others do know and fly anyway. My opinion is that the company is deliberately and unabashedly placing us all and our families in harms way by not just shutting down the operation for a few weeks. I'd like to see all the managers/leaders fly back and forth to NYC, layover in a scuzzy motel, eat in a local restaurant and use public transportation to go back and forth for the next 4 weeks and try to fly and be responsible for 200+ peoples lives an NOT be distracted. Good luck with that.
right on. The rational argument is being totally ignored by the company and frankly by the union. Every one of us is being put in jeopardy just by the desire to keep the operation going. Everything else be damned this is the elephant in the room. Why are we ignoring this?
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