Pilots bad. Pilots greedy. Union bad.
04-05-2020, 10:00 AM
#181
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Joined APC: May 2013
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Posts: 1,504
Originally Posted by Mesabah
Effect of social distancing on the Flu:
Why weren't you calling for a complete shutdown all your life? Are people who die of the flu, worth less than those that die of Covid19?
Why weren't you calling for a complete shutdown all your life? Are people who die of the flu, worth less than those that die of Covid19?
We are just using a choke like in a shotgun to mitigate the spread perhaps, granted it does focus the pattern a bit. Maybe a leap, but you get the picture. Not “saying”, just asking if there might be more variables than one graph can show?
04-05-2020, 10:16 AM
#182
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 438
Originally Posted by C17B74
Good Point, maybe... Or does this virus spread significantly faster than the flu ever did; the flu numbers might have been significantly different with other variables included back 10, 20, 30+ years prior with the same population size of today, living on top of themselves, mental discipline, more older folks, let alone take air travel for example as this virus hit during the highest known passenger travel counts perhaps. Crap, moves quick thanks to us.
We are just using a choke like in a shotgun to mitigate the spread perhaps, granted it does focus the pattern a bit. Maybe a leap, but you get the picture. Not “saying”, just asking if there might be more variables than one graph can show?
We are just using a choke like in a shotgun to mitigate the spread perhaps, granted it does focus the pattern a bit. Maybe a leap, but you get the picture. Not “saying”, just asking if there might be more variables than one graph can show?
04-05-2020, 10:21 AM
#183
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: B25, Left
Posts: 947
Originally Posted by fishforfun
And just think, there is a vaccine and therapeutic drugs for the flu, and we still average 30,000+ deaths per year with tens of millions infected. That’s WITH all the medicine we have for the flu. But that’s ok.
04-05-2020, 10:49 AM
#184
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We have the exact same shortcall obligation as AA. Sick if needed is nice but we get far more sick leave per year than AA.
04-05-2020, 10:59 AM
#185
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Originally Posted by thrust
Interesting. AA short call time to report is “promptly available”. My Delta buddies said you had a defined report time in hours/minutes. Is that not the case?
This is widely misunderstood, "promptly available" is the short call requirement.
The 2 hours is in regards to reporting for short call coming off of X days (time off)...so the earliest short call time of 10 am can be delayed to noon, a nice provision for those commuting in for short call.
04-05-2020, 11:28 AM
#186
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you got 4000 pilots to take a SIL the savings would be roughly 35% of what reducing the ALV would generate. I think getting 4000 SIL bidders at Delta would be a stretch because of our better reserve system compared to AMR or UAL and the real total would be around 2000 so far less savings.
04-05-2020, 11:46 AM
#187
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Originally Posted by TED74
5 year career total
side note does Mil leave while on a PLOA or KLOA count against those 5 years?
04-05-2020, 11:55 AM
#188
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Originally Posted by Grapple
No time limit in the contract WRT short call.
This is widely misunderstood, "promptly available" is the short call requirement.
The 2 hours is in regards to reporting for short call coming off of X days (time off)...so the earliest short call time of 10 am can be delayed to noon, a nice provision for those commuting in for short call.
This is widely misunderstood, "promptly available" is the short call requirement.
The 2 hours is in regards to reporting for short call coming off of X days (time off)...so the earliest short call time of 10 am can be delayed to noon, a nice provision for those commuting in for short call.
04-05-2020, 01:31 PM
#189
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Originally Posted by thrust
Interesting. AA short call time to report is “promptly available”. My Delta buddies said you had a defined report time in hours/minutes. Is that not the case?
04-05-2020, 02:03 PM
#190
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
We will never know if they don’t try. If you thought the virtual base recind was out of spite then this is the tit for that tat.
We were easily going to give VB's a try. They blew way past the agreed upon timeframe, we allowed it, and they said it would be this base and category then sandbagged us with another for no reason other than to show that communication with us wasn't even on their backburner.
That is why VB's were pulled down.
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