sailingfun

If you got 4000 pilots to take a SIL the savings would be roughly 35% of what reducing the ALV would generate. I think getting 4000 SIL bidders at Delta would be a stretch because of our better reserve system compared to AMR or UAL and the real total would be around 2000 so far less savings.

53x11

Less savings than what? Zero? Happy Palm Sunday all!

Grapple

We will never be know how many would take a SIL until they try it.

Considering that summer is upon us and that would be the time frame for the SILs, I'd think they'd get as many as they desired. If they didn't they could always decide not to make awards after a bidding deadline.

Jaww

This was exactly my point. Thanks for saying it much more betterer.

crewdawg

I don't know how many we'd get, but I know for sure, I would bid SILs for every month they offered them. 55 hours to have zero obligations and May/June off...sign me up! I've got plenty of things I could get into, even with all this BS going on. For me, it's worth the loss of 17 hours to not be on the leash. Heck, I might even pick up a month of orders, which would pay the same as my SIL.

If the company would step down from their ivory tower about MLOA, and extend their USERRA exemption out to 1-2 years, they'd get a lot more guys willing to jump on orders. Based on their past stance on MLOA, I don't see it happening.

Clearly they're not that serious about this. Once their fear of liquidation outweighs their fear of unions, then I'll start to believe they're taking this seriously.

GogglesPisano

Where is the 60 days coming from? I see no revenue until the end of the year, maybe. It's another bailout or liquidation for all the legacies -- or at least the first one to run out of cash.

Since, "We are by far the best positioned ..."

Phins2right

Coming from the management team that completely pooched last summers manning - yeah I believe.

I'll just keep bidding reserve. Collect my 73hrs+ of pay every month. That will save them money! I'd take a SIL in a heartbeat, but at 65 hours now. Earlier I would've been fine with 55hrs, but they had to go there with 65 for the FA's so there's that.....

gloopy

I'd have to agree with your assessment of this.

I don't think pointing the airline towards a cliff and stepping on the gas while blaming the pilots for it is going to impress the FA's enough to vote no for a union.

That doesn't mean they're not vindictive enough to try; they are already at least bluffing that move now. Wasn't it Ron Allen who boasted he'd "take a strike" before allowing pilot JS because he didn't want to make the FA's jealous? That was quite the bravado, but it would have been funny to see him explain that to the NMB when asking for release, then to the out of work FA's, and then again later to the SEC in what surely would have been a massive shareholder class action case.

If this team isn't capabile of telling the FA's to get over the fact that all work groups aren't the same in every way (hint: point them to unionized UA/SW/AA/JB FA groups, not the DL pilot group) and put an end to buybacks for a long time it will be impossible to take them seriously. Not to mention seeing them actually work to save the airline instead of worrying about their stupid Quixotic board room fantasies, maybe then they could catch up to their genius counterparts at the OAL's that are actually locking in and banking cost savings while they do what they've done best for years: watching big stacks of money burn for nothing.

Gone Flying

you would think they would be all over guys taking MLOA right now. only cost is 16% to 401k, much cheaper than paying res gaurentee or a SIL.

BTW is the 5 year USSERA limit cumulative or does it reset every time you return from Mil leave?

TED74

5 year career total