Pilots bad. Pilots greedy. Union bad.
04-05-2020, 08:35 AM
#171
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
you would think they would be all over guys taking MLOA right now. only cost is 16% to 401k, much cheaper than paying res gaurentee or a SIL.
BTW is the 5 year USSERA limit cumulative or does it reset every time you return from Mil leave?
BTW is the 5 year USSERA limit cumulative or does it reset every time you return from Mil leave?
SWA exempted mil leaves UFN. The hazard in that is if a service member takes a 3 year AGR tour when already bumping the limit, and then after a year SWA says that the exemption period is over. The service member would likely win that fight if they couldn’t get the order curtailed, but who wants to do that?
Other flip side, perhaps Delta isn’t ready to cut loose too much manning yet. Who knows? Based on recent events, I doubt they are thinking that strategically or holistically about it. I think the only target in front of them is to stop an FA union.
04-05-2020, 08:40 AM
#172
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
I think getting 4000 SIL bidders at Delta would be a stretch because of our better reserve system compared to AMR or UAL and the real total would be around 2000 so far less savings.
Better than AA? Maybe, maybe not. Bet DAL pilots would love AA’s Sick-if-needed provision and lack of a defined call-out time for short call... just like AA pilots would love some of DAL’s reserve rules.
Gotta keep fact-checking the SailingFun half-truths...
04-05-2020, 09:08 AM
#173
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
No... that is absolutely wrong.
Why weren't you calling for a complete shutdown all your life? Are people who die of the flu, worth less than those that die of Covid19?
04-05-2020, 09:08 AM
#174
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
If the company would step down from their ivory tower about MLOA, and extend their USERRA exemption out to 1-2 years, they'd get a lot more guys willing to jump on orders. Based on their past stance on MLOA, I don't see it.
04-05-2020, 09:32 AM
#175
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Effect of social distancing on the Flu:
Why weren't you calling for a complete shutdown all your life? Are people who die of the flu, worth less than those that die of Covid19?
Why weren't you calling for a complete shutdown all your life? Are people who die of the flu, worth less than those that die of Covid19?
04-05-2020, 09:35 AM
#176
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
From the last negotiators notepad:
At this meeting, Company leaders proposed a 20% reduction beyond the minimum ALVs permitted by the PWA for the months of May, June and July (later amended to only May and June).
At this meeting, Company leaders proposed a 20% reduction beyond the minimum ALVs permitted by the PWA for the months of May, June and July (later amended to only May and June).
04-05-2020, 09:37 AM
#177
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
You straight up contradicted yourself, but still continue to double down?
04-05-2020, 09:40 AM
#178
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
If you got 4000 pilots to take a SIL the savings would be roughly 35% of what reducing the ALV would generate. I think getting 4000 SIL bidders at Delta would be a stretch because of our better reserve system compared to AMR or UAL and the real total would be around 2000 so far less savings.
04-05-2020, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Does anyone actually believe ALVs will magically go back to normal after either 60 or 90 days? Does anyone believe if we take reduced ALVs it will keep X number of guys from getting furloughed. Sounds like “shovel ready jobs” or “jobs saved or created.”
Reading the last few company memos has been a “shovel ready” job.
04-05-2020, 09:46 AM
#180
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Originally Posted by thrust
Better than UAL? Sure. Global reserve and airport standby is a non-starter.
Better than AA? Maybe, maybe not. Bet DAL pilots would love AA’s Sick-if-needed provision and lack of a defined call-out time for short call... just like AA pilots would love some of DAL’s reserve rules.
Gotta keep fact-checking the SailingFun half-truths...
Better than AA? Maybe, maybe not. Bet DAL pilots would love AA’s Sick-if-needed provision and lack of a defined call-out time for short call... just like AA pilots would love some of DAL’s reserve rules.
Gotta keep fact-checking the SailingFun half-truths...
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